Too much ice

Maybe, but I’ve never seen ATF be granted WAY more money than they would ever need, recruit politically motivated sycophants, and sent to a city to perform “crowd control”. This is different.

This is what happens when the government is allowed to get too much power. Neither side minds the abuses of power too much until it goes against them. Maybe this could become an object lesson in why we should scale back the power of the government.
 
I will concede that (him going for an agents gun) has to be considered in an exhaustive detailed report. I just don’t see how that can play out with four guys piled on top of him likely highly limiting use of his hands is all.
The final ballistics report will tell the tale...is suspect's DNA on an officer's gun or another gun? or not

I have more issue if the first shot comes from the officer wearing green and jeans standing up without further evidence so far
 
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Maybe, but I’ve never seen ATF be granted WAY more money than they would ever need, recruit politically motivated sycophants, and sent to a city to perform “crowd control”. This is different.
Who is performing "crowd Control"....the ICE agents are carrying out operations directly and these people are interfering or obstructing
 
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^^^ this part amazes me. For my entire life Republicans have claimed “small government”, “kick the responsibilities to the states”, “states rights”, “an all-powerful centralized government is dangerous”, etc…

Now it’s comply or die. The level of hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness is astounding. It just goes to show what a crock of sh** all those talking points were, because when their chosen leaders turn tyrannical they can’t wait to blame the states being terrorized, the Americans (not in a border town, btw) protesting for their most basic freedoms to be free from a masked police force that claims it’s enforcing immigration and customs laws, yet macing and shooting Americans in their own neighborhoods.

Wake up you hypocritical wimps.


Ah yes another soy boy key board warrior.

You’re cute.
 
I don't disagree but we haven't seen an American gestapo on our streets in my lifetime. Nor have I seen an American president openly antagonize, openly bully and overtly threaten military action against our allies.

Trump fans the flames of division to his benefit and to our detriment in a manner I haven't seen in my lifetime.

There is no equivalency here with prior administrations, again, at least in my lifetime, democrat or republican.
No, because the last party convinced the people they were the gestapo and were calling the cops on their grandmother for not wearing a mask.
All the 💩 we are now seeing has been in the works for a while.
Democrat blah blah blah, republican blah blah blah, the same people are running the show from behind the scenes and suckering the people into the conflict by playing the party game.
 
Not sure if I’m misunderstanding you but government paramilitary or even wannabemilitary agents shooting people on the street and pushing their way into houses is worth discussing, IMO.
And how did we get here?
The protesters should stop wasting time on ICE because they clearly are not helping and follow lawmakers around and protest them till they do their damn jobs and reform the immigration system
 

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