Too much ice

I don't know maybe they were just returning from their son’s basketball game
Sorry I should've specified more because I see the comment i responded to had the article link, I was speaking more in general terms not to this specific event. I watched some tiktok with a lady interfering in an ice raid and she had her kids in her car with her.
 
I see law enforcement getting out of their cars and a guy with a camera in their face acting like an @sshole. Dude do that to any local police officer and see what happens
I made that statement last week these idiots should 100% start jumping out of their car anytime they see a local leo or state trooper doing a traffic stop or during any other operation.
 
I made that statement last week these idiots should 100% start jumping out of their car anytime they see a local leo or state trooper doing a traffic stop or any during any other operation.
it's all done to start a provocation so they can post it on social media, claim victimhood and hope the media will put it in their headlines.
 
In the pursuit of detaining and deporting illegal aliens, ICE is also detaining legal American citizens for being brown…sometimes up to 12 hours before being released.
170 cases through October against 660,000 deportations. Pretty good batting average, especially when you consider ~half the states do not support ICE in their efforts.
 
I apologize if I misread and/or misinterpreted your intent. I disagree with that as well, but it's not nearly as ridiculous as I had initially perceived.

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i think the real question pertinent to the thread title is how much ice before we reach chandrasekhar's limit?
 
In the pursuit of detaining and deporting illegal aliens, ICE is also detaining legal American citizens for being brown…sometimes up to 12 hours before being released.
Can you define "detaining"? They have not always had the power to stop people and ask for them to show proof of residency/citizenship? And if they check documents and let them go, how is that "hostile by nature"?

If the police stop me because they have reason to believe my vehicle was involved in a bank robbery, and then they let me go after questioning, they are being "hostile by nature"?
 
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Minnesota: ACLU Sues to Stop ICE from Arresting Somali and Hispanic Illegal Aliens​


Minnesota residents of Somali descent and Hispanic heritage are suing President Donald Trump’s Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to effectively shut down federal immigration enforcement across the state.

On Thursday, the left-wing American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), representing Somali immigrant Mubashir Khalif Hussen, Mahamed Eydarus, who is American and of Somali descent, and Javier Doe, a Hispanic American, filed suit against DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and ICE Director Todd Lyons, among other agency officials.

The lawsuit is asking a federal court to issue a statewide injunction to stop what it calls “unlawful policies and practices” being carried out by ICE agents, including allegations of racial profiling.

 
Too stupid to understand that that video makes them look worse 😭
It does in deed. And the idiot who posted the tweet said "this is exactly what I voted for"......and I believe him.
Division, hatred, and incivility are the cornerstones of trumpism.... the ultimate goal???
 

As Tim Walz Encourages Resistance, Minnesota ‘ICE Watch’ Declares ‘Time Is Ripe To Embrace Militancy’​


MN ICE Watch posts guide encouraging escalation ‘by any means necessary’​


The "ICE Watch" group at the center of the unruly demonstrations gripping Minneapolis urged supporters to "embrace militancy" and escalate their demands "by any means necessary." Hours later, Minnesota governor Tim Walz (D.) also encouraged residents to resist ICE, accusing the agency of carrying out a "campaign of organized brutality."

MN ICE Watch, which describes itself as an "autonomous collective documenting & resisting against ICE, police, & all colonial militarized regimes," shared an Instagram post on Wednesday teaching agitators how to relay "information on police and/or fascist" activity at demonstrations.

"We within the belly of this imperial beast face a turning point," the post read. "After seven full months during which our protests have utterly failed to slow the gears of the war machine, there is nothing left to do but escalate" (emphasis theirs). "The time is ripe to embrace militancy on the ground, both to keep ourselves safer, and as a demonstration of our commitment to the words ‘by any means necessary.'"

 

As Tim Walz Encourages Resistance, Minnesota ‘ICE Watch’ Declares ‘Time Is Ripe To Embrace Militancy’​


MN ICE Watch posts guide encouraging escalation ‘by any means necessary’​


The "ICE Watch" group at the center of the unruly demonstrations gripping Minneapolis urged supporters to "embrace militancy" and escalate their demands "by any means necessary." Hours later, Minnesota governor Tim Walz (D.) also encouraged residents to resist ICE, accusing the agency of carrying out a "campaign of organized brutality."

MN ICE Watch, which describes itself as an "autonomous collective documenting & resisting against ICE, police, & all colonial militarized regimes," shared an Instagram post on Wednesday teaching agitators how to relay "information on police and/or fascist" activity at demonstrations.

"We within the belly of this imperial beast face a turning point," the post read. "After seven full months during which our protests have utterly failed to slow the gears of the war machine, there is nothing left to do but escalate" (emphasis theirs). "The time is ripe to embrace militancy on the ground, both to keep ourselves safer, and as a demonstration of our commitment to the words ‘by any means necessary.'"

good luck..we have F-15s
 
That has nothing to do with him being choked to death
I wouldn't say "nothing". Absent any more details given about the death, is it more reasonable to assume that a detention center guard just randomly choked him to death for no reason, or that the type of guy who would rape a kid may also be the type of guy to get violent with a guard in the detention center, and things went sideways trying to restrain him?

Do you have more details to give us about the situation?
 
Then why were they detained in the full video? We're just going off what you posted as proof that makes these agents look absolutely awful
It looked like they were asking him/them if they were legal, and one tried to flee. If you don't want to be apprehended, don't flee law enforcement. These are pretty simple life principles, similar to "don't fry bacon naked" and "don't answer, 'It's not the pants that make your butt look big'".
 
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It does in deed. And the idiot who posted the tweet said "this is exactly what I voted for"......and I believe him.
Division, hatred, and incivility are the cornerstones of trumpism.... the ultimate goal???
Those people instigating ICE agents were Trumpists? They were literally following the agents around taunting them, cursing them and calling them names, and you won't call that for what it is? Hateful, uncivil and divisive.
 
Thanks, doesn't change my mind. He didn't have to shoot her, he's a POS for doing so but the way our laws are written it was a legal shoot.
And what exactly made it legal?
That he had a reasonable belief that his life was in danger?
The video makes that look much less "reasonable".
 
Those people instigating ICE agents were Trumpists? They were literally following the agents around taunting them, cursing them and calling them names, and you won't call that for what it is? Hateful, uncivil and divisive.
lol....of course it is hateful, uncivil, and divisive.....and that's exactly the reaction trump is intentionally instigating....he's been playing this game for 10 years now....it's beyond the point where people can play ignorant.
 

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