Too much ice

[Volnanza]

We know her intent wasn't to run him over, her wheels were pointed away from him. The argument is that the officer didn't know she was turning (or see her hands on the steering wheel) and wrongly thought he was going to die, and that shooting her would save himself

Her intent is irrelevant. The question is "Did the officer think his life was being threatened". That's an obvious YES.

 

[Rickyvol77]

It's far from silly; it's accurate. There are a lot of good cops but there are also a lot of miscreants.
Why don't you run the numbers on murder rates in America compared to Muslim countries?

Law enforcement in America has between 4.5-5 million encounters with the public each year and there are about 300-400 shootings, 90% are clearly justified and legal.

So yes...it IS silly. You are more likely to be killed by a random guy walking down the sidewalk in NYC or Chicago than ever by a LEO

 

[Vol8188]

So the two women show up to agitate. They hit an ice agent with their car. And we are supposed to be deeply upset that she got killed?

And you’re a boot licker according to some in here if you don’t have an issue with the agent’s actions?

People are wild.

 

[Vol8188]

We know her intent wasn't to run him over, her wheels were pointed away from him. The argument is that the officer didn't know she was turning (or see her hands on the steering wheel) and wrongly thought he was going to die, and that shooting her would save himself

She literally hit him with her car. How little do you think of female drivers?

 

[Matt2496]

She sure didn’t seem panicked. Actually, she seemed wildly aggressive. Her wife too

It's a complete destruction of the left's main narrative. Radio silence from the usual leftwing posters.

 

[luthervol]

What were you referencing when you called it a facemask, and illegal? Your definition of a facemask? What would the referees be referring to your opinion, or the rules? In our legal system, which would be the equivalent to the standard? Our laws, or your opinion?

WTH???? Can you ask a coherent question?

So, it's your view that it was a justifiable homicide, but he also killed her illegally. Despite what the words actually mean?

No I do not believe it was a justifiable homicide, but I believe the authorities (refs) will view it that way.
What he did meets my definition of murder, and murder, by definition is the illegal taking of life.
So again....in my eyes, it was murder, which is illegal.
In the eyes of the authorities who will make the ultimate call, it was not illegal, which means it was not murder.

The facemask was committed on a running back in the backfield and in complete unobstructed view of multiple refs.
It turned his head completely sideways and caused his upper body to twist significantly......and it was at a critical time late in the 4th quarter. Even the announcers were shocked that there was no call. The fact that there was no penalty called and enforced in no way negates the fact that an obvious illegal activity occurred.

If the refs were to later claim that they viewed the facemask as incidental, it would in no way change the fact that an illegal facemask occurred and they completely blew the call.....but alas...still no penalty.

 

[Vol8188]

It's a complete destruction of the left's main narrative. Radio silence from the usual leftwing posters.

K-town is the best. He tried sharing a post from the mother stating that her daughter was not a protester and would never do anything like that

 

[EasternVol]

Bootlickers are the vast amount of anti-Trump cult members so are you addressing them?

I'm addressing those who say it took razor sharp reflexes for the heroic ICE guy to barely get hit by a car that was on a trajectory to barely hit him, with plenty of time to move.

 

[Orange_Crush]

She literally hit him with her car. How little do you think of female drivers?

Wait! Wait I gotta meme!

 

[Matt2496]

K-town is the best. He tried sharing a post from the mother stating that her daughter was not a protester and would never do anything like that

That is not surprising LOL.

 

[Vol8188]

WTH???? Can you ask a coherent question?

No I do not believe it was a justifiable homicide,

You’ve seen the video where she clearly hits him with her car, right? So in your mind it’s unjustifiable to shoot someone who after her and her wife both have been yelling and behaving aggressively then rams you with her car.

That’s not justifiable? Does she have to literally kill him first before you’ll accept a violent reaction as a justifiable act of self defense?

 

[Good Ol' Charlie Brown]

We know her intent wasn't to run him over, her wheels were pointed away from him. The argument is that the officer didn't know she was turning (or see her hands on the steering wheel) and wrongly thought he was going to die, and that shooting her would save himself

Sexist...........................................................................................................................

 

[EasternVol]

Jesus you are dense. "her not complying" isn't the reason she was shot, the main reason was her striking an officer with her vehicle.

If she had gotten out of the van and started running she would not have been shot in that instance

If you want dense just look in a mirror. Some wrote here that her not complying justified her shooting.
Probably she wouldn't have gotten shot if she got out and ran, but it's happened before.

 

[Rickyvol77]

If you want dense just look in a mirror. Some wrote her that her not complying justified her shooting.
Probably she wouldn't have gotten shot if she got out and ran, but it's happened before.

New video showed her not panicked and looking directly at the officer she ran over. So even that benefit of the doubt is gone

 

[EasternVol]

What if she intended to kill or injure him? The same or no?
You don't get to determine what was "unnecessary" or not, because you weren't in that position

Sure I do. Shooting someone when they're going past you and not at you is unnecessary.

 

[appvol]

Hiel Hitler

I always knew you were a Nazi.

 

[JMSqb11]

This is pretty funny to me.

Minny's Sheriff instructed local law enforcement not to work with Federal Officers in any sort of capacity. And now journalists are bitching that the body cam footage is public.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Sure I do. Shooting someone when they're going past you and not at you is unnecessary.

LMAO you are either an idiot or a liar at this point.

She clearly hit him with the vehicle

 

[whodeycin85]

LMAO you are either an idiot or a liar at this point.

She clearly hit him with the vehicle

I think both...but given is history it's expected.

 

[Good Ol' Charlie Brown]

Hiel Hitler

The hell your problem is?

 

[etsuvol13]

There is a whole world full of people out there who would not panic in this situation.

There is a whole world full of officers out there that would not shoot in this situation as well. Preferential treatment in distributing grace in this situation should not be only given to the officer. Both acted poorly, but only 1 is no longer here. That is what people forget.

 

[EasternVol]

How do you know that?

Because she was passing him when he shot. If she was on line to run him over, his shots would have been too late to change that. What he did accomplish was creation of a two ton missile which easily could have kiiled someone.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

This is much more damning. It boggles my mind that this wasn't the very first video released.

All the other vids were from bystanders or fellow troublemakers trying to push a anti ICE narrative.

 

[JMSqb11]

There is a whole world full of officers out there that would not shoot in this situation as well. Preferential treatment in distributing grace in this situation should not be only given to the officer. Both acted poorly, but only 1 is no longer here. That is what people forget.

Because one party had to use their weapon after the other used their weapon and failed to neutralize the other.

 

[Vol8188]

There is a whole world full of officers out there that would not shoot in this situation as well. Preferential treatment in distributing grace in this situation should not be only given to the officer. Both acted poorly, but only 1 is no longer here. That is what people forget.

Should we be upset that we live in a world where showing up to berate law enforcement and then hitting them with your car leads to your death?