Too much ice

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KB5252 said:
The way that is written it's impossible for me to put a valid timeline or sequence of events. So he ran from a traffic stop in 2024 with a handgun and knife. Was his status then updated and his visa cancelled....... If so that seems like a reasonable response.
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No, it was canceled because he was stopped on the way back from a hunting trip and forgot to unload his weapon before transporting it back, a common mistake. He was fined $200 for it or something like that. The hullaboo around current events are likely due to fear of persecution by ice.
 
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hog88 said:
He should have applied for citizenship. It's on him and no one else.

Most likely the case is one of him not want to give up his citizenship from his birth country.
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The system should have helped him instead of turning on him with a visa or citizenship application.

I closed a white feller the other day who didn't have a real ID. No need to through him in the tsaa dungeon if he were to try to travel anywhere by plane. Same for Mr roberts with his paperwork issue.
 
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NashVol11 said:
. ICE committing more violence than any of the student protestors is an objective fact,
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Why are you comparing a federal agency that is enforcing the laws on the books, to some "students" that felt the need to express their hatred towards anyone that does not agree with them? Those same "students" resorted to violence because someone told them No.
 
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ETV said:
Why are you comparing a federal agency that is enforcing the laws on the books, to some "students" that felt the need to express their hatred towards anyone that does not agree with them? Those same "students" resorted to violence because someone told them No.
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You want to argue so bad. Having 15 people die in your custody is not "enforcing the laws on the books"
 
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Why did we show so many illegal and undocumented into the US during the last administration to begin with?

And why is the current administration so serious about sending as many back as they can?

The answers to both questions are intertwined and completely political.

What these parties are doing to this country to maintain control is Insanity. This country won't last as it is currently another 20 years at this rate.
 
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LouderVol said:
there is a legal method to enter the country. what you are actually saying is to legalize SOME people breaking/ignoring the law. The much better argument would be to revise the immigration system to make the legal process easier. that way everyone would be happy. just making it legal for anyone to come into this country under whatever means they happen to have/use is not fixing the problem.

you knock on my door, I open it and let you in = legal.
same "you" don't knock on my door, and you let yourself in = not legal.
I let you in under set parameters, and you overstay, especially after being told to leave = not legal.
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This is just plain common sense, and a 5 year old could understand it. Especially the way you took the time to explain it.

The Liberals BS responses are either:

1. But my neighbor/friend/sisters BF is a really great guy and hes getting deported because he broke the law and came here illegally. This makes me really sad because: feelings so everyone is a Nazi...Trump is a fascist...ICE agents doing their jobs are literally Satan...and if you don't agree with me you're a fascist/Nazi/racist/xenophobe too!

Or

2. We want to import as many illegals as possible to vote Democrat and destroy everything the oppressive white patriarchy has built. Usually with self loathing and overwhelming white guilt...as most of these people are white.

Overwhelming majority fall in 1 of the above or both. Immigration law isn't special. Its just like any other law. You either break it or you don't. You're either here legally or not. I bet many on the Left would be really surprised at how many of my Latino friends and coworkers that came here legally despise this illegal immigration crisis. They put in all the time and effort to come here legally and greatly resent those who did not, and the scrutiny and negativity they catch because of the illegals. I guess it's like the honest man who lives in a bad neighborhood but gets up to go to work everyday, takes pride in his home and yard etc. He hates the drug dealers that hang out in the same hood all day, and the thieves that will steal everything he worked hard for to support their drug habit and lifestyle. Those who work hard and do things the right way resent those who don't...but expect all the rewards and benefits anyway. Americans owe absolutely nothing to illegal aliens. It will cost an astronomical amount of money just to remove half the illegals the Biden Administration willingly brought into this country. Citizens should be angry about that. Not angry at those who want basic, longstanding laws enforced.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Of course it would. ICE is detaining significantly more people. Trump has already deported more people than Biden did in his first 3 years combined.
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No, it wouldn't. The death rate has more than tripled and the number of detentions is absolutely nowhere close to that
 
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LouderVol said:
I addressed that in my first response. the data is slanted. SOME locations have been given them a free pass. not every AG in the state is going to be a MAGA boi waiting to lasso up some dark skinned people.

I know Georgia gave free passes. we have had a couple catch-and-release murders here. Ibarra (Laken Riley) had been arrested in Texas, NY, and Georgia, and released each time, before the murder. he wouldn't have shown up in your stats until the murder charge.

Congress literally passed a law, in 2025 based on that murder and situation, so that criminal illegals would have to be detained instead of being released, and thus not showing up in the stats. pretty easy to see how the data isn't going to be trust worthy, from any state, with the reality out there.

I moved on to other points because you didn't address my point.
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This is a joke. At best you have a suspicion and a guess that the data is slanted. You don't know that. You ignore the 15 years of TX data, which may slant it the other way, and cling onto the one year of GA data

Again, legal immigrants are the strongest point, you have not addressed it, and you won't accept it. You just deflect and talk about made up positions for me that are supposedly extreme and unreasonable but you won't explain what they are.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Seems intentionally misleading to compare it on a per month basis rather than a per capita basis. But that’s the kind of dishonesty we’ve come to expect
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if you read the article they break it down that way too. or maybe it was one of the links in there.

the detained population has gone up 2x, but deaths are up 4x.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This is a joke. At best you have a suspicion and a guess that the data is slanted. You don't know that. You ignore the 15 years of TX data, which may slant it the other way, and cling onto the one year of GA data

Again, legal immigrants are the strongest point, you have not addressed it, and you won't accept it. You just deflect and talk about made up positions for me that are supposedly extreme and unreasonable but you won't explain what they are.
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have you looked at the data to say one way or the other wither? the last year was 2024. the act requiring other crimes to lead to jail sentences just passed in 2025. it passed because there was an obvious failing at the federal level which covers every state, including Texas.

I don't have a frame of reference for Texas to know one way or the other, but Georgia which you upheld at first, was a case that struck close to home and is literally the name sake for the fix in incarceration, at the federal level, you are presenting data on.

I think if Congress has to pass a law to address the situation that you are pulling data on, its fair to say its slanted/biased.
 
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