Too much ice

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NashVol11 said:
Sure thing

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Democracy; a system where the majority vote determines the law. Democrats are in the minority. If they refuse to agree to go with the majority, the majority has no duty to make allowances to placate the minority.
Dems lost the 2024 election decisively. They are pitching a tantrum like a bunch of toddlers and making Americans suffer while they hold their breaths to teach big bad orange man a lesson 🙄
 
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NashVol11 said:
"We're not going to agree to that" came from whom lol
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The majority has no responsibility to agree to the minority. You seem to have this whole “democracy “ thing backwards.
We voted the Republicans into power because we agreed with their positions. STOP denying us the things the American people voted for.
Elections have consequences
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Democracy; a system where the majority vote determines the law. Democrats are in the minority. If they refuse to agree to go with the majority, the majority has no duty to make allowances to placate the minority.
Dems lost the 2024 election decisively. They are pitching a tantrum like a bunch of toddlers and making Americans suffer while they hold their breaths to teach big bad orange man a lesson 🙄
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Last sentence is incredibly ironic when they keep offering to fund TSA and everything but ICE, Republican Congressmen agree and Trump is pitching a tantrum like a toddler and keeping TSA unpaid to teach everyone else, who is in agreement, a lesson
 
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utvolpj said:
What's false? Why is ice at the airport handing out water and holding people's spot in line? That's a govt waste
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No, Somali Learing Centers in Minneapolis is government waste. ICE helping people is government doing its job. You may think they could be better employed elsewhere; but the elected President gets to make that call.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Last sentence is incredibly ironic when they keep offering to fund TSA and everything but ICE, Republican Congressmen agree and Trump is pitching a tantrum like a toddler and keeping TSA unpaid to teach everyone else, who is in agreement, a lesson
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False, every proposal that Up-Chuck Schumer brings to the table has strings attached and does not fully fund the REST of TSA, like the Coast Guard.
DO. THEIR. JOB
Also, if you know your constitution, you know that all funding legislation must begin in the house, not the Senate. The house has already passed a bill and sent it to the Senate. The Senate is supposed to vote on the bill before it; not try and rewrite something that the proper branch has already approved
 
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OrangeTsar said:
No, Somali Learing Centers in Minneapolis is government waste. ICE helping people is government doing its job. You may think they could be better employed elsewhere; but the elected President gets to make that call.
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Lol, this is pathetically subservient even for you. If we spend a ton of money on ICE for them to be standing around airports, that's absolutely waste regardless of "the elected President"'s opinion on the matter
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Senate cannot originate spending bills
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What in here is incorrect?

Senate Republicans have now—on 11 separate occasions—blocked bills to fund TSA, FEMA, CISA, Coast Guard, and other important DHS functions, and they’ve blocked pay for TSA 8 times in a row.



On Thursday, March 5, Senate Republicans:

  1. Blocked a bill offered by Senator Murray to fund all of DHS except for ICE, CBP, and the DHS Secretary’s office while negotiations on ICE and Border Patrol continue.

    Senator Murray sought unanimous consent to pass the bill. But Senator Katie Britt (R-AL) blocked the bill.
On Wednesday, March 11, Senate Republicans:

  1. Blocked Senator Murray’s bill to fund all of DHS except for ICE, CBP, and the DHS Secretary’s office while talks continue.

    Senator Murray sought unanimous consent to pass the bill. But Senator Katie Britt (R-AL) blocked the bill.
On Thursday, March 12, Senate Republicans:

  1. Blocked a bill offered by Senator Jacky Rosen (D-NV) to pay TSA workers while broader negotiations continue.

    Senator Rosen sought unanimous consent to pass the legislation. But Senator Bernie Moreno (R-OH) blocked the bill.
  2. Blocked a bill offered by Senator Andy Kim (D-NJ) to fund CISA while broader negotiations continue.

    Senator Kim sought unanimous consent to pass the bill. But Senator Roger Marshall (R-KS) blocked the bill.
  3. Blocked a bill offered by Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) to ensure members of the Coast Guard are paid while broader negotiations continue.

    Senator Murphy sought unanimous consent to pass the bill. But Senator Eric Schmitt (R-MO) blocked the bill.
  4. Blocked a bill offered by Senators Alex Padilla (D-CA) and Adam Schiff (D-CA) to fund FEMA while broader negotiations continue.

    Senators Padilla and Schiff sought unanimous consent to pass the bill. But Senator James Lankford (R-OK) blocked the bill.
On Wednesday, March 18, Senate Republicans:

  1. Blocked a bill offered by Senator Reverend Raphael Warnock (D-GA) to pay TSA workers while broader negotiations continue.

    Senator Warnock sought unanimous consent to pass the legislation. But Senator James Lankford (R-OK) blocked the bill.
On Thursday, March 19, Senate Republicans:

  1. Blocked a bill offered by Senator Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) to pay TSA workers while broader negotiations continue.

    Senator Slotkin sought unanimous consent to pass the legislation. But Senator Bernie Moreno (R-OH) blocked the bill.
  2. Blocked a bill offered by Senator Brian Schatz (D-HI) to fund all of DHS except for ICE, CBP, and the DHS Secretary’s office while talks continue.

    Senator Schatz sought unanimous consent to pass the bill. But Senator James Lankford (R-OK) blocked the bill.
On Saturday, March 21, Senate Republicans:

  1. Voted against straightforward legislation to pay TSA workers while broader negotiations continue.

    Every Senate Republican present (49 in total) voted against the bill. Every Democrat present voted for it.
Today—March 23, Senate Republicans:

  1. Blocked a bill offered by Senator Jacky Rosen (D-NV) to pay TSA workers while broader negotiations continue.

    Senator Rosen sought unanimous consent to pass the legislation. But Senator Roger Marshall (R-KS) blocked the bill.
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NashVol11 said:
What in here is incorrect?
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Baaa baaaaa. Whatever Pravda tells you
There is a duly passed spending bill from the house on Schumer’s desk on which he refuses to allow a vote (filibuster).
Anything the Senate proposes would have to go back to the house and everything starts all over again. You did take middle school civics, right.
The Senate could pass any of Chuckies bills tommorow and it wouldn’t do a THING to restore funding. It is all a show and it is discouraging that sheeple keep falling for it.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Baaa baaaaa. Whatever Pravda tells you
There is a duly passed spending bill from the house on Schumer’s desk on which he refuses to allow a vote (filibuster).
Anything the Senate proposes would have to go back to the house and everything starts all over again. You did take middle school civics, right.
The Senate could pass any of Chuckies bills tommorow and it wouldn’t do a THING to restore funding. It is all a show and it is discouraging that sheeple keep falling for it.
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So nothing in there was incorrect? Seems like this is about as clean a bill as one can propose, and they even split it up by agency after the omnibus was rejected

 
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OrangeTsar said:
No, Somali Learing Centers in Minneapolis is government waste. ICE helping people is government doing its job. You may think they could be better employed elsewhere; but the elected President gets to make that call.
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What they're doing is absolutely not the purpose of govt law enforcement. That's absurd
 
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