Too much ice

"They lie about everything"

It makes perfect sense, she got a student visa in 2016, didn't attend classes for a semester, so Obama DHS revoked her student visa....she dated a dude and got married and separated a bit, then went back to school and took classes for a DECADE (maybe 1-2 classes a semester at most).

Doesn't mean it's a lie, it's actually quite obvious that is what happened...and why she still is in school.

It would be really easy to disprove for ANY reporter, can't wait to see someone do it IF it was a lie!

Just like your initial lie about the blind guy who actually wasn't blind...when the facts come out, they always win
They do lie about everything, and I see that you confirmed that you have nothing to back it up other than "they said so."

It's funny that you act like I said he was blind (post it) when you said, yourself, that he "asked" to be taken to the coffee shop and embarrassed yourself trying to back it up with something more than "DHS said so." Noticing a pattern here
 
Is a deportation order akin to an arrest warrant? If not then what is their purpose?
Deportation orders and their associated administrative warrants are civil orders created by immigration judges who work for the executive branch. These “judges” are just administrative adjudicators and do not have the authority of judiciary branch judges. They’re glorified clerks. So yes their orders are in the same category as parking tickets. And I know you know this as it’s been covered ad nauseam here.
 
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Deportation orders and their associated administrative warrants are civil orders created by immigration judges who work for the executive branch. These “judges” are just administrative adjudicators and do not have the authority of judiciary branch judges. They’re glorified clerks. So yes their orders are in the same category as parking tickets. And I know you know this as it’s been covered ad nauseam here.

So if a deportation order is in the same category as a parking ticket and immigration judges are nothing but clerks why do judiciary branch judges uphold these orders and detainments? By your reasoning they are undoubtedly unconstitutional
 
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They do lie about everything, and I see that you confirmed that you have nothing to back it up other than "they said so."

It's funny that you act like I said he was blind (post it) when you said, yourself, that he "asked" to be taken to the coffee shop and embarrassed yourself trying to back it up with something more than "DHS said so." Noticing a pattern here
Occam's Razor is a bit too much for some
 
Sure, when they repeatedly get caught lying. Unfortunately, many here are incapable of doing it for the IDF, which has a lot in common with DHS in terms of trustworthiness
I don't trust Israel either but I look at all evidence objectively, and if you were truly saying "sure when they repeatedly get caught lying" then why do you continue to post BS reports and tweets which are obvious lies just because you assume them to be true?
 
I don't trust Israel either but I look at all evidence objectively, and if you were truly saying "sure when they repeatedly get caught lying" then why do you continue to post BS reports and tweets which are obvious lies just because you assume them to be true?
Give an example of an "obvious lie" I posted from a "Hamas or Palestinian source" repeatedly caught lying
 
So if a deportation order is in the same category as a parking ticket and immigration judges are nothing but clerks why do judiciary branch judges uphold these orders and detainments? By your reasoning they are undoubtedly unconstitutional
This is not where you were coming from. They are legal documents but they only carry civil not criminal authority.

Let me remind you. You were torn about the authority these documents grant with regard to entering a private residence. Not even criminal orders allow that without an associated judiciary warrant or your term arrest warrant.

So care to restate that hot take? Since you know you brought up the constitution. Which covers warrants and fourth amendment and all that.
 
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This is not where you were coming from. They are legal documents but they only carry civil not criminal authority.

Let me remind you. You were torn about the authority these documents grant with regard to entering a private residence. Not even criminal orders allow that without an associated judiciary warrant or your term arrest warrant.

So care to restate that hot take?
My response was to your takes that it "violated the 4th Amendment" and that ICE "kicked down the door" and neither of those things were true
 
My response was to your takes that it "violated the 4th Amendment" and that ICE "kicked down the door" and neither of those things were true
Your response was related to a specific arrest which I didn’t comment on. And hog and I are talking in the general case again. Congrats on winning an argument I never made? 🤷‍♂️
 
LOL I read everything I could find about the situation, and I also am very familiar with how jail release, hospital release, "rides close to home" and things are done. Every city/county, every day.

So yes I do utilize some common sense logic as well, but the fact remains everything I said was factual.

He was in jail for trespassing and assaulting two officers. He was given a retainer for ICE by the local sheriff dept who contacted them at his release. ICE came and picked him up and realized the retainer was a mistake so they dropped him off near his last known address (as his "family" had no current number and new address) in a downtown area with plenty of businesses....they fulfilled everything they needed or had to do, and did nothing wrong.

What this guy did from there for the next 5 days doesn't matter and is inconsequential, he's an adult.

And as for your personal shots at me, I have helped save and protect hundreds of lives, and you fall on the other side of those people and the actual law, so I will always take that as compliment from you.
You're still giving a slanted narrative and you dodged a few questions.
Why not take him to his last known address if the idea was to get him home since they're being so kind, and wouldn't they have his current address from when he was picked up? Why no call to his family?
He was apparently a disabled adult so what he did after he was dropped off may well matter. You're closing the case before the data's all in.
I don't recall taking any personal shots at you.
I'm still intrigued by your advertised ability to determine an individual's worth as a person. How did you learn that trick?
 
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You're still giving a slanted narrative and you dodged a few questions.
Why not take him to his last known address if the idea was to get him home since they're being so kind, and wouldn't they have his current address from when he was picked up? Why no call to his family?
He was apparently a disabled adult so what he did after he was dropped off may well matter. You're closing the case before the data's all in.
I don't recall taking any personal shots at you.
I'm still intrigued by your advertised ability to determine an individual's worth as a person. How did you learn that trick?
- He no longer lived at that address according to the Sheriff Dept that released him, and they didn't have to anyways
- They had no contact information for his family, and they didn't have to anyways
- How was he disabled? Because he spoke no English? had bad vision in 1 eye? Even if he was "disabled", he would've been walking home from the jail anyways; He clearly was alive and fine for 5 days before he died. The coroner said it was not due to exposure. There is absolutely no criminal matter here, you COULD make more of a CIVIL suit type case if ICE had dropped him in a field in a blizzard and he died an hour later for frostbite, but that isn't what happened. There were several open businesses around the area, and he had multiple options AS AN ADULT to do
- Worth as a person is often determined as their actions and contributions to society, so someone who contributed nothing and assaulted two officers while trying to bother another family on their property speaks for itself
 
- He no longer lived at that address according to the Sheriff Dept that released him, and they didn't have to anyways
- They had no contact information for his family, and they didn't have to anyways
- How was he disabled? Because he spoke no English? had bad vision in 1 eye? Even if he was "disabled", he would've been walking home from the jail anyways; He clearly was alive and fine for 5 days before he died. The coroner said it was not due to exposure. There is absolutely no criminal matter here, you COULD make more of a CIVIL suit type case if ICE had dropped him in a field in a blizzard and he died an hour later for frostbite, but that isn't what happened. There were several open businesses around the area, and he had multiple options AS AN ADULT to do
You're just dancing to the CBP's song, no surprise.
- Worth as a person is often determined as their actions and contributions to society, so someone who contributed nothing and assaulted two officers while trying to bother another family on their property speaks for itself
The guy's son said he got lost, wasn't intentionally trespassing and didn'tunderstand whoever was complaining. That may well be true. Or have you seen proof that it's not? If it's not then why did they release him? Assaulting police doesn't usually get someone sent home.
What's notable from your comments is that you know nothing about the guy yet you trash him.
 
You're just dancing to the CBP's song, no surprise.

The guy's son said he got lost, wasn't intentionally trespassing and didn'tunderstand whoever was complaining. That may well be true. Or have you seen proof that it's not? If it's not then why did they release him? Assaulting police doesn't usually get someone sent home.
What's notable from your comments is that you know nothing about the guy yet you trash him.
What evidence do you have that CBP is lying? The sheriff dept at the jail and camera footage line up with what they are saying

He "got lost" and decided to try and break into someone's house, and then assaulted two officers with a weapon? Yea I hate when "cultural differences" cause that.

They released him because after two weeks in jail his family posted bail after he pled guilty to the charges. The retainer to ICE was because of the felony charges, but the liberal DA reduced the plea to misdemeanors which is what caused this whole incident to unfold in the first place.
 
The guy's son said he got lost, wasn't intentionally trespassing and didn'tunderstand whoever was complaining. That may well be true. Or have you seen proof that it's not? If it's not then why did they release him? Assaulting police doesn't usually get someone sent home.
What's notable from your comments is that you know nothing about the guy yet you trash him.
There's a lot in this thread, seems to line up with what his son said

EDIT: The tweet that the below is a reply to has, or had, video of his prior arrest

Buffalo Police also today released body cam footage showing Shah Alam's underlying February 15, 2025, arrest, which was the reason for his immigration detainer. Shah Alam, who is nearly blind and doesn't speak English, had gotten lost and entered a stranger's backyard and was using curtain rods as walking sticks, his attorney told @ipostnews. The woman called police, who tased and tackled Shah Alam.


 
There's a lot in this thread, seems to line up with what his son said

EDIT: The tweet that the below is a reply to has, or had, video of his prior arrest





That thread includes the video from the officers where he clearly hits them with the metal rod like a bat

Grand jury indicted him for multiple felony charges which is why he was in jail a year...the family said they didn't bail him out sooner because they were worried about him being deported. LOL
 
Thaw ICE.
Thaw ICE.
 

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