Too much ice

[GAVol]

Which is why all this is happening. No one is talking about it.

Apparently Nick Shirley (who broke the story/scandal) is in California about to break another daycare scandal. We will see if it’s as bad.

There’s definitely a back story to a lot of this. It’s almost more important to understand the politics of how we even got here and root that out.

 

[BreatheUT]

It’s an interesting argument. On one hand, the whistleblowers are no different from people just dropping pins on Waze to tell other users where cops are running radar for speed. On the other hand, they could also be compared to lookouts during the robbery of a liquor store.

Imo it’s the physical surveillance that crosses the line. Following them around the city.

 

[volsforever27]

Nick Shirley didn't break anything and has the IQ of a rock, so I wouldn't hold my breath

And yet as dumb as he is he broke the story no one else would.

It’s sad a YouTuber has to do the job for corporate media.

 

[BreatheUT]

There’s definitely a back story to a lot of this. It’s almost more important to understand the politics of how we even got here and root that out.

I think that what the federal government is doing. There is something highly corrupt and anarchist around the Minneapolis area.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It’s an interesting argument. On one hand, the whistleblowers are no different from people just dropping pins on Waze to tell other users where cops are running radar for speed. On the other hand, they could also be compared to lookouts during the robbery of a liquor store.

I’ve never heard the lookout angle. Everything I’ve read here has panties all wadded up over the use of social media to coordinate the movement of protesters to where the agents are and then blowing whistles at the protest site. That is not illegal.

 

[volsforever27]

There’s definitely a back story to a lot of this. It’s almost more important to understand the politics of how we even got here and root that out.

Local politicians and NGOs .

 

[GAVol]

Nick Shirley didn't break anything and has the IQ of a rock, so I wouldn't hold my breath

I don’t think he’s dumb. But likely just another shill looking for his 15 minutes.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Imo it’s the physical surveillance that crosses the line. Following them around the city.

And you’re wrong on that stance.

 

[NashVol11]

And yet as dumb as he is he broke the story no one else would.

It’s sad a YouTuber has to do the job for corporate media.

He didn't break anything. There was already a fraud case and he didn't add anything to it except for stupidity. It's like thinking Gunther Eagleman is breaking news stories

 

[volsforever27]

I’ve never heard the lookout angle. Everything I’ve read here has panties all wadded up over the use of social media to coordinate the movement of protesters to where the agents are and then blowing whistles at the protest site. That is not illegal.

They’re also going around writing down license plates of suspected ICE members which had lead to threats to media members who aren’t even ICE.

It’s going to get someone hurt.

 

[volsforever27]

He didn't break anything. There was already a fraud case and he didn't add anything to it except for stupidity. It's like thinking Gunther Eagleman is breaking news stories

He physically went and showed the empty offices and the money being wasted. Putting that down just makes you look silly.

 

[NorthDallas40]

They’re also going around writing down license plates of suspected ICE members which had lead to threats to media members who aren’t even ICE.

It’s going to get someone hurt.

It’s already gotten two people killed and another shot so a bit late for that.

And threats to anybody ICE or not deserves a response and is wrong.

 

[volsforever27]

It’s already gotten two people killed and another shot so a bit late for that.

And threats to anybody ICE or not deserves a response and is wrong.

Exactly. I don’t want to see anyone else hurt, protester or ICE. If these groups keep doing this though, it’s not a question of if but when.

 

[GAVol]

Local politicians and NGOs .

I literally was in Minneapolis 2 months ago and can vividly remember thinking “Huh… Kind of random” a lot. If you’re in Texas and see a Hispanic influence or in Hawaii and see things written in Japanese it makes sense. There’s probably a good reason for Somalians in Minnesota, but…

 

[NashVol11]

He physically went and showed the empty offices and the money being wasted. Putting that down just makes you look silly.

He went to a bunch of places that were closed, non-operational or actually did have people in them and claimed they were fake daycares, with no one ever finding evidence to back up what he said (like everything else he says). He's an idiot. I hate to tell you how putting this much stock in YouTube makes you look

 

[Orange_Crush]

Exactly. I don’t want to see anyone else hurt, protester or ICE. If these groups keep doing this though, it’s not a question of if but when.

The interesting thing is that by showing up, agitating, and purposefully creating chaos in the areas, they are not only creating the environment for more shootings, but they are also creating the environment that courts can use to justify the shootings.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I don’t agree that the bolded is interfering with one exception on the whistles. If they are told to stop because the noise is interfering with their communication and they continue that becomes interfering.

In the first ICE encounter Pretti had (the second video though) I stated I thought he owed property damages.

Attempts to deliberately causing hearing damage is a srill assault.

 

[NashVol11]

I literally was in Minneapolis 2 months ago and can vividly remember thinking “Huh… Kind of random” a lot. If you’re in Texas and see a Hispanic influence or in Hawaii and see things written in Japanese it makes sense. There’s probably a good reason for Somalians in Minnesota, but…

There are a lot of Kurds in Nashville. I imagine there are populations like that all over, and when it's Germans instead of Somalis it seems like no one bats an eye

 

[volsforever27]

There are a lot of Kurds in Nashville. I imagine there are populations like that all over, and when it's Germans instead of Somalis it seems like no one bats an eye

Lol it’s all racism.

 

[GAVol]

The interesting thing is that by showing up, agitating, and purposefully creating chaos in the areas, they are not only creating the environment for more shootings, but they are also creating the environment that courts can use to justify the shootings.

Yes, but the ICE response and the agitators are kind of creating each other. Hopefully DHS figures out the paramilitary look isn’t the way.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So on your edit, the bolded specifically, I assume you are talking about the TSA agents that were wrongly identified as ICE? Yeah that was stupid and not helpful on their cause I agree.

That’s far from the only time these useful idiots have done that. It’s a regular occurrence

 

[whodeycin85]

Well I’m smart enough to know this gibberish is BS

Look down one post from this one. Well whadda know local PD arrested a bunch of protesters. Not for stalking though sorry. For riotous behavior and property damage.

Right local LEOS. Not ice which is what I was referring to in your post..where you claimed the the victim (ice) of the stalking or harrassing should arrest them stalkers....which they legally cannot do in a state level charge.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Yes, but the ICE response and the agitators are kind of creating each other. Hopefully DHS figures out the paramilitary look isn’t the way.

• Portray the target government as illegitimate, authoritarian, corrupt, or “fascist.”
• Front-load allegations: accuse incumbent of planning the crimes the opposition intends to commit (rigging, regression, dictatorship).
• Fund and train NGOs, student groups, and opposition politicians to repeat a unified message.
• Create/amplify a unifying symbol or theme (e.g., Orange Man Bad).
• Manufacture an electoral crisis.
• Street mobilization.
• Public appeals to and moral blackmail of the military and police: “You’re with the people, not the regime.”
• Promises of immunity, future positions for defectors.
• Threats to those who support target government.
• Provoke a response, flood media with images of “peaceful protesters” being attacked.
• International legitimation as foreign governments and media recognizes opposition leaders as “legitimate” authority.
• Sanctions, frozen assets, diplomatic isolation applied to sitting government.
• New elections scheduled under international supervision.

 

[whodeycin85]

If they followed the agents home then that's not very similar

How do they know where they are headed if they bee following them around all day...again the caveat is the same agent or agents by the same people..is stalking...legally..

 

[GAVol]

There are a lot of Kurds in Nashville. I imagine there are populations like that all over, and when it's Germans instead of Somalis it seems like no one bats an eye

Exactly my point. For instance, the Northeast side of Atlanta is loaded with Vietnamese, Thai, Koreans etc. which seems just as random but obviously somewhere there was a reason why that occurred. I’m sure 150 years ago there were Mexicans in Texas saying “Where’d all these white guys come from?”