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Criminal Alien Sentenced Gets Maximum Sentence for Brutal Assault on ICE Officer in Kansas​


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Federal prosecutors and Homeland Security officials vowed zero tolerance for violence against law enforcement after a criminal illegal alien from Mexico was sentenced to 20 years in prison for a brutal assault on an ICE officer in Wichita, Kansas. The sentence is the maximum penalty allowed for this charge under federal law.


Why won't they release the name of the hero officer who was attacked?
 
Both sides put forth legislation that deals with symptoms and spend a great deal of time arguing about it but there’s very little proposed that looks anything like a long term solution.

Lots of bandages for parts of problems though

Honest question…

Do you think moving the current illegals quickly through the system to get them legal status would still be needed for manual labor jobs if we had actual welfare reform that forced those able to work actually work or they starve?

I truly believe in immigration but the illegals coming are not doctors and lawyers and are mainly blue collar it appears.
 
Sold their souls?

You just validated my point with your extreme stance.

Views like this make lunatics feel it’s justified to murder them.

Validated your stance?

You said they don't want stalkers.

I said they don't want judgement, and I passed judgement.

You think my judgement validated your stance, which was about stalking?

We need a secret police because people think they're doing awful things is not an operating procedure for a healthy democracy. If you believe in your work, put your name on it. That's exactly what Tim, our resident LEO, said about the job. This work isn't supposed to be for cowards. And in this case, they pay you handsomely.
 
Validated your stance?

You said they don't want stalkers.

I said they don't want judgement, and I passed judgement.

You think my judgement validated your stance, which was about stalking?

We need a secret police because people think they're doing awful things is not an operating procedure for a healthy democracy. If you believe in your work, put your name on it. That's exactly what Tim, our resident LEO, said about the job. This work isn't supposed to be for cowards. And in this case, they pay you handsomely.

Sold their souls implies they are evil.

When a lunatic kills what they view as evil it is considered being a hero in their eyes.
 
Honest question…

Do you think moving the current illegals quickly through the system to get them legal status would still be needed for manual labor jobs if we had actual welfare reform that forced those able to work actually work or they starve?

I truly believe in immigration but the illegals coming are not doctors and lawyers and are mainly blue collar it appears.
I get paid to provide a high end product. Forcing lazy clock riding shitbags on to my job site sounds like a terrible idea.

Do you want the lazy ***** building our roads?

The guys I use are all legal (or were till the government decided to stop renewing work visas) they have all been here 20 years and have children that are us citizens. If I could find merican subs who’s ass I didn’t have to wipe for them then I’d use them. Those merican skilled craftsmen are few and far between.
 
I get paid to provide a high end product. Forcing lazy clock riding shitbags on to my job site sounds like a terrible idea.

Do you want the lazy ***** building our roads?

The guys I use are all legal (or were till the government decided to stop renewing work visas) they have all been here 20 years and have children that are us citizens. If I could find merican subs who’s ass I didn’t have to wipe for them then I’d use them. Those merican skilled craftsmen are few and far between.

Valid point.

I could counter with if welfare didn’t exist the mindset would change but that is a generational change and wouldn’t help you in the here and now.

I do think people on work visas with no criminal record should be fast tracked but should not be allowed welfare benefits for them or dependents for 10 years.

And I live in Nashville. I would take a new road any way I can get it.
 
Valid point.

I could counter with if welfare didn’t exist the mindset would change but that is a generational change and wouldn’t help you in the here and now.

I do think people on work visas with no criminal record should be fast tracked but should not be allowed welfare benefits for them or dependents for 10 years.

And I live in Nashville. I would take a new road any way I can get it.
2nd.
Legal immigration should be streamlined. Illegal immigration should be locked down. People here on work visas should not be eligible for welfare or unemployment type programs.
You come here for an opportunity, not to be a child of the state
 
Sold their souls implies they are evil.

When a lunatic kills what they view as evil it is considered being a hero in their eyes.

OK, how come you hold me to this standard in this case when we got people all over the political landscape straight up calling others evil and filth, etc.? You yourself have said the government as a whole is evil. That doesn't include ICE? Aren't you guilty of potentially encouraging fringe lunatics with that kind of rhetoric? Or is it more important that we're able to call evil evil?
 
2nd.
Legal immigration should be streamlined. Illegal immigration should be locked down. People here on work visas should not be eligible for welfare or unemployment type programs.
You come here for an opportunity, not to be a child of the state
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2nd.
Legal immigration should be streamlined. Illegal immigration should be locked down. People here on work visas should not be eligible for welfare or unemployment type programs.
You come here for an opportunity, not to be a child of the state
I think a lot of people across a pretty broad political spectrum would get behind this model.
 
OK, how come you hold me to this standard in this case when we got people all over the political landscape straight up calling others evil and filth, etc.? You yourself have said the government as a whole is evil. That doesn't include ICE? Aren't you guilty of potentially encouraging fringe lunatics with that kind of rhetoric? Or is it more important that we're able to call evil evil?

Honest question: how fast would ICE employees be doxxed and picketted and their families put in harms way if they were known?

24 hours?

How fast would a website go up showing their faces and addresses like the SC had done to them?

24 hours? One week?

How long before one was killed?

If you are honest you know it would be quick.

Traffickers want them gone too. Cartels.
 
Honest question: how fast would ICE employees be doxxed and picketted and their families put in harms way if they were known?

24 hours?

How fast would a website go up showing their faces and addresses like the SC had done to them?

24 hours? One week?

How long before one was killed?

If you are honest you know it would be quick.

Traffickers want them gone too. Cartels.
those websites exist already. I couldn't find any examples of arrests or attacks on ICE or the families at their homes, or when out as a civilian. The only attacks on ICE have been while they are in uniform, or at an ICE facility, which is public info.

so the answer to your question is currently an infinite timeline, because there hasn't been example of your fear mongering to start the clock. if there was an attack today the timeline would be several months, at least 6 months based on the start dates of three websites I found in 2 minutes.

If ICE is uncomfortable doing their jobs they need to push back on their leadership for creating the mess. so far they haven't, so again their fear mongering rings hollow.

this is on par with the typical government revisionist justification of "if it saves one life", or "think of the children/grandmothers".
 
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