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#9,877
Rooster1 said:
It’s disgusting a decent man who was a US citizen was shot 9 times on the streets of America by masked federal agents. Yeah, we agree, disgusting.
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Was he a decent man? You don’t know anything about the guy. Its unfortunate he was killed they way in which he was, but for all you know he could be a pedophile.
 
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hndog609 said:
I think it might be worth gaming this out at least a little bit.

We do not, nor have we for some time, legally lived in a true absolutist "shall not be infringed" situation. If one wished to argue that "should" be the case so be it but such arguments don't reflect our current reality. Bruen basically took "may issue" off the table and made "shall issue" the minimum default. This still allows for states to require a permitting process but eliminated the "proper cause" limitation in issuance. Anyone discussing permits with regard to legally carrying is actually correct to do so under current law. (again, disagreeing with that limitation being in place doesn't change the reality)

The better "What the hell?" in this is where some have now decided to push a narrative of where even those lawfully permitted to carry should be allowed to do so. I think that is more in line with what you and others are trying to underscore. Suddenly deciding "Well, you can carry in public spaces but we really need to start setting limits on what that actually means." doesn't work for me nor should it work for anyone trying to uphold the 2A. It's a kind of end run, like people that say "If we can't get the guns let's clamp down on the ammo.". Now it's "Hey we're okay with having carry permits we just need to clamp down on where they are actually valid.".
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The whole he is not allowed to carry a firearm to a protest,that has been the rights justification for Petties murder.

Seems these same posters was supporting Kyle Rittenhouse who not only brought a firearm but used it.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Was he a decent man? You don’t know anything about the guy. Its unfortunate he was killed they way in which he was, but for all you know he could be a pedophile.
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Nothing at all in his history to suggest that, and if there was it would have been plastered all over Fox. As for the pedophile part there is a real possibility maga elected one
 
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#9,882
Carl Pickens said:
Was he a decent man? You don’t know anything about the guy. Its unfortunate he was killed they way in which he was, but for all you know he could be a pedophile.
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Yeah, he was probably a pedophile, nothing to see here. Carry on. A man is murdered, and you go there? and yeah, a whole community who knew this man came to his defense and gave witness to his being a very decent man, an ICU nurse in a veterans hospital helping veterans and who had done great things in his community. A person that hundreds have spoken up in support of, will they do the same for you one day?
 
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Rooster1 said:
It’s disgusting a decent man who was a US citizen was shot 9 times on the streets of America by masked federal agents. Yeah, we agree, disgusting.
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Think it’s been established he wasn’t shot 9 times. I think it’s pretty disgusting a lot US Citizens have been raped and murdered by illegal immigrants. I think it pretty disgusting a lot US Citizens have been killed by illegal immigrants driving drunk. I think it pretty disgusting Democrat Politicians want to protect those illegal immigrants just for voting reasons
 
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appvol said:
Think it’s been established he wasn’t shot 9 times. I think it’s pretty disgusting a lot US Citizens have been raped and murdered by illegal immigrants. I think it pretty disgusting a lot US Citizens have been killed by illegal immigrants driving drunk. I think it pretty disgusting Democrat Politicians want to protect those illegal immigrants just for voting reasons
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You are not smart enough to understand that the supposed logic you employ here is a wasted trip. You just don’t get it, you were maybe never meant to live under a constitution of democracy. You want the authoritarian leader who will deliver the social system you desire, US constitution be damned. GL with that. Trump is on the clock and Democracy will return.
 
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appvol said:
Think it’s been established he wasn’t shot 9 times. I think it’s pretty disgusting a lot US Citizens have been raped and murdered by illegal immigrants. I think it pretty disgusting a lot US Citizens have been killed by illegal immigrants driving drunk. I think it pretty disgusting Democrat Politicians want to protect those illegal immigrants just for voting reasons
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I wouldn't know where to start,so I'll justsum it up with, you one stupid person.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Nothing at all in his history to suggest that, and if there was it would have been plastered all over Fox. As for the pedophile part there is a real possibility maga elected one
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Let me make something clear. I think the way he was killed was horrific and unfortunate.
I also think painting the guy as the patron saint is a bit much.
 
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Rooster1 said:
Yeah, he was probably a pedophile, nothing to see here. Carry on. A man is murdered, and you go there? and yeah, a whole community who knew this man came to his defense and gave witness to his being a very decent man, an ICU nurse in a veterans hospital helping veterans and who had done great things in his community. A person that hundreds have spoken up in support of, will they do the same for you one day?
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I think you may need psychiatric help.
 
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Look, I am a white male, born and raised in the US. My parents also. My grandparents were immigrants from Canada btw. Every male member of my family from the time of our immigrant fore bearers has served this country from WW2 to the Korean War and the Vietnam war as well as Desert Storm. We are Americans and have all sworn to defend the constitution. Every uncle, cousin, grandfather and father served. We all served.

But for those on here who think the constitution, the country and our Democracy needs to take a back seat at times “for the good of a cause” can kiss my ass. Your cause is likely the supposed return to a kind of nation you believe was right is a one sided affair. We all know the social order you hope comes to be with this “regime”, and you will kick the constitution to the curb to get it.

Won‘t happen, enjoy the next 12-18 mos. That is when the Democracy will prevail over the cult, once the cult leader has lost the power over politicians to primary them. Watch and learn simple minded people.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I think you may need psychiatric help.
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You are a flea. A small man tbh, and weak in thought. You could no more put together a well thought out response than you could be merciful or humble at the death of a human being. You may even call yourself a Christian, but that would obviously be a stretch of imagination, you are MAGA first, American and religious faith second and third. Go away.

Many like you lack the conviction to stand up to wrong and will follow an authoritarian to hell and back. Get some balls and separate, stand up for what is right. Get some pride man. You sheep are so pathetic to witness, beholden to a false leader and willing to trample all manner of Democracy in pursuit of your following your King.
 
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Rooster1 said:
You are a flea. A small man tbh, and weak in thought. You could no more put together a well thought out response than you could be merciful or humble at the death of a human being. You may even call yourself a Christian, but that would obviously be a stretch of imagination, you are MAGA first, American and religious faith second and third. Go away.

Many like you lack the conviction to stand up to wrong and will follow an authoritarian to hell and back. Get some balls and separate, stand up for what is right. Get some pride man. You sheep are so pathetic to witness, beholden to a false leader and willing to trample all manner of Democracy in pursuit of your following your King.
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You’re either one incredibly f’ed up individual or a troll of epic proportions
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Go change your pad bro….you make Luther look like He-Man
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You have no idea what you are talking about or to whom. You are a follower. A sheep. You have no moral ground you stand on, you will accept whatever the orange man tells you as fact. GL with that Mr Sheep.

You are the type of man easily recognized, and you are already aware of this, it’s why you choose to follow blindly an authoritarian leader. Your type knows no other way, they are not the kind to stand up and declare their own belief on right and wrong, easier to follow the big guy saying everything. You want what he wants, so you follow.
 
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#9,898
Rooster1 said:
You are a flea. A small man tbh, and weak in thought. You could no more put together a well thought out response than you could be merciful or humble at the death of a human being. You may even call yourself a Christian, but that would obviously be a stretch of imagination, you are MAGA first, American and religious faith second and third. Go away.

Many like you lack the conviction to stand up to wrong and will follow an authoritarian to hell and back. Get some balls and separate, stand up for what is right. Get some pride man. You sheep are so pathetic to witness, beholden to a false leader and willing to trample all manner of Democracy in pursuit of your following your King.
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Did you have a good time at the NO Kings rally.
 
#9,899
#9,899
Rooster1 said:
Look, I am a white male, born and raised in the US. My parents also. My grandparents were immigrants from Canada btw. Every male member of my family from the time of our immigrant fore bearers has served this country from WW2 to the Korean War and the Vietnam war as well as Desert Storm. We are Americans and have all sworn to defend the constitution. Every uncle, cousin, grandfather and father served. We all served.

But for those on here who think the constitution, the country and our Democracy needs to take a back seat at times “for the good of a cause” can kiss my ass. Your cause is likely the supposed return to a kind of nation you believe was right is a one sided affair. We all know the social order you hope comes to be with this “regime”, and you will kick the constitution to the curb to get it.

Won‘t happen, enjoy the next 12-18 mos. That is when the Democracy will prevail over the cult, once the cult leader has lost the power over politicians to primary them. Watch and learn simple minded people.
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Man, where were you during Covid. We could have used this passion fighting against the Branch Covidians who were screaming for more government tyranny.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
The whole he is not allowed to carry a firearm to a protest,that has been the rights justification for Petties murder.

Seems these same posters was supporting Kyle Rittenhouse who not only brought a firearm but used it.
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The first needs to be qualified as "some" on the right. You don't even have to leave this thread to see the demarcation.

Citing a guy adjudicated as acting in self defense makes for a poor flex. And even then plenty of people here that acknowledged the legality still questioned if it was prudent.

If you want to call out individual examples they certainly exist but broad brushing isn't accurate.
 
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