Too much ice

[NashVol11]

Once again when the country was 1st founded. Dont believe there was a constitution from the get go correct

When the country was first founded most of those state constitutions didn't exist either, you're never going to be able to make them important lol. As several have pointed out, the Founders were very clear about this

 

[appvol]

 

[allstar34]

More peaceful protests are carried out by the radical left nut jobs.

Man, this is going to radicalize people. This needs to be shared until Trump sends in the Military.

 

[allstar34]

 

[n_huffhines]

Again, the absolute dumbest people are in charge rn.

 

[allstar34]

Again, the absolute dumbest people are in charge rn.

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What's the solution? Cut funding from these states and let them scatter and poison other communities? When you have an infestation, you treat the source. Unfortunately, crazy white women are heavily impeding on their jobs.

 

[BeardedVol]

Again, the absolute dumbest people are in charge rn.

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There's a large contingent of people on this board with Gadsden flag, and "do no comply" stickers and t-shirts that live in a near constant state of cognitive dissonance these days.

 

[BeardedVol]

What's the solution?

For the government to follow the Constitution.

 

[n_huffhines]

Remember when we used to joke about a "lemme see your papers" type of federal government that was coming?

 

[85SugarVol]

A lot of false equivalency conflating it with the Good incident.

I haven’t been reading the thread. Have any drawn any parallels between Ashli Babbitt & Renee Good?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Peaceful protesters attack and knocked out one of their own.

 

[allstar34]

For the government to follow the Constitution.

There has been plenty of calls to action/violence in these protests. There's also several explicit videos of mob violence on individual's as well.
Under Supreme Court precedent, speech can only be punished if it is
• Intended to cause imminent lawless action
• Likely to cause imminent lawless action
Check & Check

Impeding an ICE operations​

This is more straightforward legally.
If a person is
• Physically blocking officers or vehicles
• Interfering with arrests or detentions
• Refusing lawful dispersal orders
• Acting as a lookout or coordinating interference
Then yes, that can be an arrestable offense under federal or state obstruction laws.

 

[allstar34]

I haven’t been reading the thread. Have any drawn any parallels between Ashli Babbitt & Renee Good?

Yup, 90% said both were in the wrong.

 

[85SugarVol]

Yup, 90% said both were in the wrong.

I was critical of Ashli Babbitt for engaging in risky behavior. Risky behavior that subsequently got her shot by a jumpy cop.

My assessment of Renee Good’s behavior would be similar. The outcome certainly was.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Remember when we used to joke about a "lemme see your papers" type of federal government that was coming?

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You used to joke about it. Some of us told you it was the next step after, “ Show me your vax card,” but you didn’t listen to us.

Now do you want to know why we won’t give up our guns? Well, those of us who didn’t lose them to the floods during Helene, of course.,

 

[BeardedVol]

There has been plenty of calls to action/violence in these protests. There's also several explicit videos of mob violence on individual's as well.
Under Supreme Court precedent, speech can only be punished if it is
• Intended to cause imminent lawless action
• Likely to cause imminent lawless action
Check & Check

Impeding an ICE operations​

This is more straightforward legally.
If a person is
• Physically blocking officers or vehicles
• Interfering with arrests or detentions
• Refusing lawful dispersal orders
• Acting as a lookout or coordinating interference
Then yes, that can be an arrestable offense under federal or state obstruction laws.

We aren't talking about people actively obstructing legitimate operations, though ICE still has to follow the Constitution regardless. There have been plenty of instances of ICE violating the Constitution of peaceful protesters on adaily basis in Minnesota.

Judge orders federal agents to stop pepper spraying, retaliating against peaceful Minnesota protesters

The ruling in a case from December applies to federal agents participating in immigration enforcement under Operation Metro Surge.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[BeardedVol]

You used to joke about it. Some of us told you it was the next step after, “ Show me your vax card,” but you didn’t listen to us.

Now do you want to know why we won’t give up our guns? Well, those of us who didn’t lose them to the floods during Helene, of course.,

This is what the "willing suspension of disbelief" looks like when it occurs in real time.

 

[allstar34]

We aren't talking about people actively obstructing legitimate operations, though ICE still has to follow the Constitution regardless. There have been plenty of instances of ICE violating the Constitution of peaceful protesters on adaily basis in Minnesota.

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Judge orders federal agents to stop pepper spraying, retaliating against peaceful Minnesota protesters

The ruling in a case from December applies to federal agents participating in immigration enforcement under Operation Metro Surge.

www.nbcnews.com

Peacefully and unobstructive, I agree with that.
I guess I missed those keywords in the discussion. My bad.

 

[BeardedVol]

I was critical of Ashli Babbitt for engaging in risky behavior. Risky behavior that subsequently got her shot by a jumpy cop.

My assessment of Renee Good’s behavior would be similar. The outcome certainly was.

Storming the Capitol building in an attempt to stop the certification of an election with a crowd that was chanting "hang Mike pence", and had assaulted numerous police officers in the proces, is just "risky behavior"?

 

[85SugarVol]

Storming the Capitol building in an attempt to stop the certification of an election with a crowd that was chanting "hang Mike pence", and had assaulted numerous police officers in the proces, is just "risky behavior"?

Yes, inherently risky behavior. Engaging in a riotous activity usually is.

 

[n_huffhines]

After getting stabbed and beaten by anti-racist whites and then saved by a black man, will Lang change his nazi stripes? Looks like a man that might have been scared straight.

 

[hog88]

The dumbest people that have ever existed are in charge rn

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You follow some of the most ignorant people.

 

[hog88]

The founding documents of this country were written very carefully to protect religious freedom, and separate it from the government… and for good reason.

Exactly. The BORs were written very carefully to protect our most essential rights.

 

[hog88]

There's no need for it. There is no need for ICE to be going door to door asking for papers in Minnesota if all places. Except for the won't play ball with Trump.

Everyone that paid the government extra money for "Don't Tread on Me" tags...THIS is the treading! Wake tf up

So if you’re local mayor/chief of police/sheriff decides there’s no reason to enforce the DUI laws you’re good?

 

[hog88]

There's a large contingent of people on this board with Gadsden flag, and "do no comply" stickers and t-shirts that live in a near constant state of cognitive dissonance these days.

100% agree