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tim said:
So what? Portugal and Mexico have 2 things in common, a shatty quality of life and a liberal view on drugs. Have at it. I'll take the war on drugs and cash my fat checks and arrest people for committing "victimless" crimes.
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Fat checks in law enforcement? I knew all of you guys were on the take.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Because we are talking about whether there should be drug prohibition or not. You are stuck on the notion that drugs are bad for you and that addicts can do bad things. That's common knowledge. Now let's discuss how prohibition helps to eliminate any of those issues.
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Do you honestly think that it doesn't reduce the number of issues?
 
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Vol8188 said:
I think all pregnant women should be on legally mandated bed rest (too many bad things can happen when you get out of bed).

They should only be allowed to eat smoothies made by certified dietitians.

And if they violate these laws, they should be arrested for endangering their fetus.
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This post is full of fail
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
If someone really wants to do hard drugs, laws won't stop them.

When I was younger and going to music festivals, you could find anything you wanted in a matter of hours.
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Which is why all the little dopers should quit complaining about drug prohibition and just get high.....
 
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Vol8188 said:
Just to be clear,

You're admitting that no drug you know of changes ones ability to tell right from wrong?

If you can name a drug and show me the studies,then let's talk about them. But to just say "addiction changes people" is a weak argument.
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Do you agree that drugs alter one's perception? That people who are under the influence make irrational decisions? That impaired individuals do things that they normally wouldn't do?.,...could it be that some of these things could be wrong?..... Perhaps?
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Carl Pickens said:
Do you agree that drugs alter one's perception? That people who are under the influence make irrational decisions? That impaired individuals do things that they normally wouldn't do?.,...could it be that some of these things could be wrong?..... Perhaps?
w
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This all applies to alcohol. I assume you must also support alcohol prohibition as well.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
And he goes to bath salts as his flagship example.

I think you might be on some hard drugs.
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Well it's actually a pretty good example because folks go ape sh*t on that stuff.....stripping naked in the streets..... Hallucinating ....... Eating people's faces off.....
 
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MercyPercy said:
This all applies to alcohol. I assume you must also support alcohol prohibition as well.
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I'd much rather be around a bunch of stoners than drunken idiots. Alcohol is bad enough and causes enough problems on its own.... Why throw gasoline on the fire and legalize more?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Well it's actually a pretty good example because folks go ape sh*t on that stuff.....stripping naked in the streets..... Hallucinating ....... Eating people's faces off.....
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As opposed to all the ggood things people do when they're drunk out of their minds.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I'd much rather be around a bunch of stoners than drunken idiots. Alcohol is bad enough and causes enough problems on its own.... Why throw gasoline on the fire and legalize more?
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You avoided saying whether or not you support alcohol prohibition. To follow your argument to its logical end, you would have to support alcohol prohibition. It would be disingenuous to say that alcohol is not as dangerous and harmful to people as the "hardest" drugs out there.

Charge someone for actual crimes they committed. If they're stealing to support their habit, charge them with burglary. If they're driving under the influence, charge them accordingly. If they're killing people after they smoked bath salts, charge them with murder.

Don't charge some for possession and consumption of a substance. That's absolute horse**** and if you can't separate drug use and criminal behavior, you're being willfully ignorant.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
See my post above .....
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So your argument is "Alcohol is bad enough, why legalize/decriminalize other drugs?"

Is that really the angle you want to take here? I'll give you a minute to rethink your strategy because you obviously aren't prepared to give a satisfactory explanation for why you believe what you believe. And hopefully your new argument will also address your views on individual freedoms and government control.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Do you agree that drugs alter one's perception? That people who are under the influence make irrational decisions? That impaired individuals do things that they normally wouldn't do?.,...could it be that some of these things could be wrong?..... Perhaps?
w
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How liberal of you. Blame the drug, not the person.

But to answer your questions:
Perception: yes
Irrational decisions: depends
Things they normally wouldn't do: sometimes, let's not act like that applies to everyone and every thing they wouldn't do

What things are you saying could be wrong?
 
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Nation Hopeful There Will Be Equally Random Chance Of Justice For Future Victims Of Police Abuse
“The number of law enforcement officers who have shot unarmed civilians and gone free over the past year has been extremely discouraging, but the fact that this policeman was arrested so swiftly shows that there can be justice for victims so long as a bystander is nearby, has a camera phone on them, captures the whole interaction, and several dozen other circumstances play out in the precise sequence,” said North Charleston, SC resident Jenine Williams, echoing the sentiments of millions of Americans who told reporters they have faith that, as long as a fair-minded eyewitness happens to be passing by at the exact right time; has the inclination to stop and film; an unobstructed view; enough battery life and memory on their phone; a steady hand; the forethought to start filming an interaction with the police before it escalates into violence; is close enough to get detailed footage, but far enough away to avoid being shot themselves or seen by the officer and potentially having their phone confiscated; and it is daytime, then justice would certainly be served.

“I have a 17-year-old son who I worry about every day when he heads out into our neighborhood. But now I can take heart knowing that if, God forbid, he were ever in a situation like this, there would be a tiny fraction of a chance that every single element would fall into place and my family would receive the fair and just legal outcome we deserve.”
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MercyPercy said:
So your argument is "Alcohol is bad enough, why legalize/decriminalize other drugs?"

Is that really the angle you want to take here? I'll give you a minute to rethink your strategy because you obviously aren't prepared to give a satisfactory explanation for why you believe what you believe. And hopefully your new argument will also address your views on individual freedoms and government control.
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I understand the logic.... But.... I really don't give a damn about your all drugs should be legalized stance. I
 
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