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A couple stories I've seen. I'm mobile and can link later.

Video justifies recent shooting. You could see the guy pull a gun. Film the police.

Cop runs over 21 yo graffiti artist in art district in Miami. Police chief offers condolences "it's unfortunate he tried to run from police."
 
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n_huffhines said:
A couple stories I've seen. I'm mobile and can link later.

Video justifies recent shooting. You could see the guy pull a gun. Film the police.

Cop runs over 21 yo graffiti artist in art district in Miami. Police chief offers condolences "it's unfortunate he tried to run from police."
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Here's a link to the story. Miami Cop Sees Graffiti Artist

The police chief's quote is callous, but I'm not going to make a judgement until video surfaces. If it happened like the officer says, then it wasn't intentional and was an accident. I kind of have a hard time seeing a police officer intentionally running someone over unless they have a gun pointed at them.
 
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I don't think the officer intentionally ran him over, but I also don't believe his explanation of events. It was probably something in between and he did something reckless he doesn't want us to know about.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I've read the opinion. It's about suppression of evidence. It's not license to go around and ignore the law. This article you linked is very misleading.
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Where does the article state this?

It's the double standard that bugs me. Ignorance of the law would never be an excuse for the average joe, even if it were a "reasonable misunderstanding" of the law.

What defines a "reasonable misunderstanding"? What qualifies as "unreasonable search and seizure"? It's a slippery slope.

That said, Mr. Heien did himself in by consenting to a search while ridin' dirty. I have no sympathy for crackheads behind the wheel (saw one firin up on the road in Clarksville this week - ugh). It's just the principle
 
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BartW said:
Where does the article state this?

It's the double standard that bugs me. Ignorance of the law would never be an excuse for the average joe, even if it were a "reasonable misunderstanding" of the law.

What defines a "reasonable misunderstanding"? What qualifies as "unreasonable search and seizure"? It's a slippery slope.

That said, Mr. Heien did himself in by consenting to a search while ridin' dirty. I have no sympathy for crackheads behind the wheel (saw one firin up on the road in Clarksville this week - ugh). It's just the principle
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where at, I'm in Clarksville this week
 
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vol_in_ar said:
where at, I'm in Clarksville this week
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Turning left onto Highway 76 from Memorial Drive. Dude was in front of us and nonchalantly swerved across the highway, pulled over onto the shoulder, then torched his crack pipe.

If we hadn't been running late I would've peeled back and called him in. Crack is whack
 
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Victim: Indecent proposition from New London chief was 'chilling' | New Hampshire Crime

Westfall, who was 18 at the time, was arrested by Seastrand, then 50, on March 2, 2013, as she walked home from a party. She was charged with giving a false name and for being in possession of a beer can.

Four days later, Seastrand called her to the police station. The former chief told Westfall he needed to meet with her alone, and began discussing alternative measures of punishment, like community service, for the misdemeanors.

Westfall, who worked frequently as a babysitter, and who was planning to major in early childhood education, said she grew more scared.

Seastrand explained, she said, that they would go into the basement. "He said would grab the station's camera to shoot a series of nude photos of me, and then he'd hold it over my head for two years to be sure I didn't commit another crime," Westfall said.

"That's when it was really chilling," she said. "He's standing there in uniform, he had his gun strapped on his side."

Seastrand told her he would deny the whole incident if she told anyone. She asked him to call her father, and she left the police station. She then called a friend, as well as her uncle and aunt, who are both police officers. They told her to write down everything she remembered. Her father, meanwhile, called state police.

Seastrand, who was not reachable for comment, and whose lawyer did not return calls asking for comment, resigned on April 4, 2013, surrendering his certification as a police officer after serving for 27 years.
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Anybody want to defend this shooting? I hadn't even seen or heard anything about this story until listening to Adam Carolla's podcast. I guess gunning down unarmed balding middle aged white guys isn't news worthy.

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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR47a1fVr1k[/youtube]
 
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Don't worry, there are plenty of black shootings that don't make national news. Who knows why some do and why some don't. The 12 YO in Cleveland should have been a much bigger deal than Michael Brown.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Don't worry, there are plenty of black shootings that don't make national news. Who knows why some do and why some don't. The 12 YO in Cleveland should have been a much bigger deal than Michael Brown.
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I had at least heard about the kid in Cleveland. And to be clear, I'm not moaning about unfair coverage disparity between blacks and whites for these types of stories. I think anytime an unarmed man is gunned down by police, it should make national news regardless of skin color. I wish there was a counter and a "-- days since the last police shooting of an unarmed victim" sign in the top right corner of every news channel. The American people need to know how common it is.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Anybody want to defend this shooting? I hadn't even seen or heard anything about this story until listening to Adam Carolla's podcast. I guess gunning down unarmed balding middle aged white guys isn't news worthy.

Warning: Graphic
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR47a1fVr1k[/youtube]
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You want to defend the driver and his blatant violation of the law?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You want to defend the driver and his blatant violation of the law?
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I couldn't tell if he rammed the cop car or not plus the video is hard for me to tell exactly where his hands were.

No need to shoot a drunk idiot if he's clearly unarmed but common sense should tell you ramming a police car is a bad idea.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You want to defend the driver and his blatant violation of the law?
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That is a subject for another thread.

This post was about the cops shooting an unarmed man. Care to respond on that subject first? Then you can create another thread that discusses the driver's actions leading up to the shooting.
 
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