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SamRebel35 said:
I think you're projecting your own unwillingness to help fund a military on the rest of Americans. If you don't think people would willingly chip in once per year to ensure that America is defended, I don't know what to tell you. If citizens weren't working the first 4 months of every year to pay uncle Sam, I bet they'd be much more willing to help fund something that is actually needed.
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What do u chip in on now?
 
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volbeast33 said:
What do u chip in on now?
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Roughly $45,000 a year is stolen from me by the government. And I'm willing to bet that 70 cents of every dollar will be frivilously pissed away by some bureaucracy that champions the virtue of sacrificing for the greater good or some such socialist bullshat. Meanwhile, my wife and I have to eat ramen noodles and have Netflix date nights to avoid going into debt to save up for a house. Some Utopia your government has created for us. And before you give us some idiotic ramblings of how wonderful our quality of life is in America, and how we should all be thankful, I'll go ahead and remind you that nearly every convenience or creature comfort that makes our lives easy and happy, was brought about by private business in a free market, of which the government is a natural enemy.
 
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hog88 said:
Saw the drug task force, I assume that's who they were, with a minivan pulled over and a (assume) mom and two little kids standing in the cold while they were searching.

On I-40 east of Memphis they are doing this crap daily.
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I see them a lot on I-65 just north of Nashville too
 
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n_huffhines said:
Not really. Most of the time they leave people alone and want to be left alone. You hear about the ones that lost their job cause they failed a test and then they stole a car stereo to feed their addiction. You don't hear about the ones that get home from work and sit on a bean bag all night, not hurting anybody.

If they don't lose their job, they don't get desperate. Legalizing takes care of a lot of the problems associated with drug use.
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Yeah it'd be a good idea to have heavy equipment operators, millwrights, press operators, bus drivers and etc. just as high as a MF while working.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Roughly $45,000 a year is stolen from me by the government. And I'm willing to bet that 70 cents of every dollar will be frivilously pissed away by some bureaucracy that champions the virtue of sacrificing for the greater good or some such socialist bullshat. Meanwhile, my wife and I have to eat ramen noodles and have Netflix date nights to avoid going into debt to save up for a house. Some Utopia your government has created for us. And before you give us some idiotic ramblings of how wonderful our quality of life is in America, and how we should all be thankful, I'll go ahead and remind you that nearly every convenience or creature comfort that makes our lives easy and happy, was brought about by private business in a free market, of which the government is a natural enemy.
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Preach on Sam.....you're spot on
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Who should pay for the dental work for meth addicts? Legalization of drug use is not the panacea some like to make it out to be. Drug users do tend to be more lazy and undependable than those that don't use them. Just like smokers, the have more sick days and work issues. I get the concept of legalization, but I think it gets more romanticized than the actual practice turns out to be.
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Is this a real question?

I get the concept of the war on drugs, but in action it's proven to be nothing but a complete and total failure. It's probably the worst domestic policy in the history of US, post slavery.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Yeah it'd be a good idea to have heavy equipment operators, millwrights, press operators, bus drivers and etc. just as high as a MF while working.
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Obviously no employer wants their guy high at work, and there would still be jobs that wouldn't want their employees to ever be high, but if you work on a call floor, WGAF?
 
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Do people honestly think if drugs are legalized that all employment rules and testing would suddenly go out the window? No, they wouldn't. I would imagine it would be treated much like we do beer and spirits today. We'd have some kind of testing procedure to tell if someone was high on the job.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Do people honestly think if drugs are legalized that all employment rules and testing would suddenly go out the window? No, they wouldn't. I would imagine it would be treated much like we do beer and spirits today. We'd have some kind of testing procedure to tell if someone was high on the job.
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You didn't know crime just goes away when you legalize drugs? All drug related arrests are just petty offenses and in no way correlate to other criminal behavior. Not to mention the government will rake in trillions of dollars because it's not like people can grow or produce their own and it's impossible to imagine dealers under cutting the government because people will love to pay for absurdly priced and taxed drugs that they could get for half price.
 
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govols/cc said:
You didn't know crime just goes away when you legalize drugs? All drug related arrests are just petty offenses and in no way correlate to other criminal behavior. Not to mention the government will rake in trillions of dollars because it's not like people can grow or produce their own and it's impossible to imagine dealers under cutting the government because people will love to pay for absurdly priced and taxed drugs that they could get for half price.
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Yeah, because that's exactly what's happening in Colorado and Washington right now with legalized pot.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Roughly $45,000 a year is stolen from me by the government. And I'm willing to bet that 70 cents of every dollar will be frivilously pissed away by some bureaucracy that champions the virtue of sacrificing for the greater good or some such socialist bullshat. Meanwhile, my wife and I have to eat ramen noodles and have Netflix date nights to avoid going into debt to save up for a house. Some Utopia your government has created for us. And before you give us some idiotic ramblings of how wonderful our quality of life is in America, and how we should all be thankful, I'll go ahead and remind you that nearly every convenience or creature comfort that makes our lives easy and happy, was brought about by private business in a free market, of which the government is a natural enemy.
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Am I going to be seeing a movie soon about the trials of Sam.....having to eat ramen noodles and watch netflix...... I'm so sorry....how do u handle living such a downtrodden life? This is a good example of why people think Americans are spoiled.....

I do agree that changes need to be made to govt but I think u fail to see the good things that our govt provides us.i hate how they waste money as much as you do. Most people want to b$tch about the negatives without seeing some of the positives....just look in this thread....all these negative stories about cops and hardly any about the good things they do.

Here is just one example of why I don't think privatization of everything will work....I got my wife pregnant when we were just dating.....she had a full time job and called to see what benefits she had with the insurance she paid for through her company. They offered her an extra benefit that would pay her 60 days of maternity leave at sixty percent of her income...she signed up for it and paid on it for seven months.... At the end of seven months......her job cut her hours to 29 hours claiming they didn't think she needed to be working that much.....the insurance company cut her right after saying she wasn't working 30 hours so she lost all her benefits that she had been paying in on......my insurance company wouldn't cover her bc we weren't married..... thank god for our govt bc tenn care covered her until we were married shortly after the birth of my son.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Am I going to be seeing a movie soon about the trials of Sam.....having to eat ramen noodles and watch netflix...... I'm so sorry....how do u handle living such a downtrodden life? This is a good example of why people think Americans are spoiled.....

I do agree that changes need to be made to govt but I think u fail to see the good things that our govt provides us.i hate how they waste money as much as you do. Most people want to b$tch about the negatives without seeing some of the positives....just look in this thread....all these negative stories about cops and hardly any about the good things they do.

Here is just one example of why I don't think privatization of everything will work....I got my wife pregnant when we were just dating.....she had a full time job and called to see what benefits she had with the insurance she paid for through her company. They offered her an extra benefit that would pay her 60 days of maternity leave at sixty percent of her income...she signed up for it and paid on it for seven months.... At the end of seven months......her job cut her hours to 29 hours claiming they didn't think she needed to be working that much.....the insurance company cut her right after saying she wasn't working 30 hours so she lost all her benefits that she had been paying in on......my insurance company wouldn't cover her bc we weren't married..... thank god for our govt bc tenn care covered her until we were married shortly after the birth of my son.
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The point wasn't how downtrodden I am or how hard I have had it. I acknowledge that my life doesn't suck. The point is, I make quite a lot of money, get a lot of money stolen from me, and I'm not exactly living like Donald Trump. You can bet your ass that I would be much more willing to donate 10% of my income to a military if I weren't getting 30% of all my money stolen once per year.

As it pertains to insurance struggles, you couldn't have picked a more perfect example of how government directives and regulations destroy private markets. Insurance would be much more affordable for everyone if there was some competition (and if frivolous lawsuits against doctors weren't a thing). But having an industry with thousands of expensive regulations creates a nearly impossible hurdle for small private insurance companies to overcome to grow and to be able to compete with the monolithic rip off insurance companies. Thanks for proving my point. Sorry about your struggles, though.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
The point wasn't how downtrodden I am or how hard I have had it. I acknowledge that my life doesn't suck. The point is, I make quite a lot of money, get a lot of money stolen from me, and I'm not exactly living like Donald Trump. You can bet your ass that I would be much more willing to donate 10% of my income to a military if I weren't getting 30% of all my money stolen once per year.

As it pertains to insurance struggles, you couldn't have picked a more perfect example of how government directives and regulations destroy private markets. Insurance would be much more affordable for everyone if there was some competition (and if frivolous lawsuits against doctors weren't a thing). But having an industry with thousands of expensive regulations creates a nearly impossible hurdle for small private insurance companies to overcome to grow and to be able to compete with the monolithic rip off insurance companies. Thanks for proving my point. Sorry about your struggles, though.
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If I had a choice to give more or give less then of course I am choosing to give less. In the world u described though there was no option like that and people give I they want too. I have dealt with the pubic enough to know that most are not going to be giving dime to anything.

I work as a rehab manager and we have to face all kinds of regulations too that is very frustrating. The problem is that therapists way overcharged for their services back during the late eighties and nineties. We have no one to blame but ourselves and if I had to guess some of that was going on in the insurance companies as well.
 
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volbeast33 said:
If I had a choice to give more or give less then of course I am choosing to give less. In the world u described though there was no option like that and people give I they want too. I have dealt with the pubic enough to know that most are not going to be giving dime to anything.

I work as a rehab manager and we have to face all kinds of regulations too that is very frustrating. The problem is that therapists way overcharged for their services back during the late eighties and nineties. We have no one to blame but ourselves and if I had to guess some of that was going on in the insurance companies as well.
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Do you donate any money to causes that are important to you? Even a small amount? Do you tithe at church? Do you do toys for tots? Do you donate to cancer research? These are rhetorical questions, they aren't directed specifically at you. The point is, people give money all the time, and not just token amounts, to causes they deem important. I'm certain that if people weren't being robbed every year, they would be very willing to donate to to the protection of the country because it is something they would deem important.
 
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volbeast33 said:
The problem is that therapists way overcharged for their services back during the late eighties and nineties. We have no one to blame but ourselves and if I had to guess some of that was going on in the insurance companies as well.
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And if there had been fewer barriers to enter the market, there would have been plenty of competitive insurance companies to ensure that the monolithic insurance giants wouldn't be able to price gouge without losing customers in droves.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Do people honestly think if drugs are legalized that all employment rules and testing would suddenly go out the window? No, they wouldn't. I would imagine it would be treated much like we do beer and spirits today. We'd have some kind of testing procedure to tell if someone was high on the job.
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The only way I could support legalization is to allow employers to maintain drug free if they choose. Drug free means random testing and possible termination if using.

Allow that and I'm good.
 
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govols/cc said:
You didn't know crime just goes away when you legalize drugs? All drug related arrests are just petty offenses and in no way correlate to other criminal behavior. Not to mention the government will rake in trillions of dollars because it's not like people can grow or produce their own and it's impossible to imagine dealers under cutting the government because people will love to pay for absurdly priced and taxed drugs that they could get for half price.
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Such a surge in untaxed liquor now?

No.
 
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Obsessed said:
It's exactly what's happening in Cali. I could only assume similar things in those states are happening.
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Fully legalize in Cali and see what happens? Cali is pseudo legal....so yeah the state was fine with medical use (not recreational like CO) but there were still federal raids of dispensaries all the time. It was basically still illegal from a business, profitability, supply/demand standpoint.
 
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