To Protect and to Serve II

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Here you go with "the law" again. I'm talking about the decision by a DA or prosecutor to simply be able to look at the totality of the situation and make a measured decision with that in mind or jury nullification if a prosecutor overcharges unjustly in a particular situation.
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Self defense via firearms happens every week in this country and DAs rarely prosecute someone who experiences this without some kind of other circumstance
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Let's get back to the point I am wanting to drive home. Why can't homeowners and business owners get this same courtesy when they are attacked? The only reason this particular situation may get glossed over is because the police were involved and these gunowners helped in the pursuit. What would have happened if the cops were not there and this guy had broken in to someone's home?
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Plenty of the same happens in scenarios you just described. I would say it depends on the area you live
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
First off, I like the idea behind the technology.

Home - The Grappler (policebumper.com)

However, with these pew-pew cops we have in America that are just anxious to get into high speed chases, gun fights and get that cheap adrenaline rush, I doubt that this will do anything to discourage high speed chases. I think this will encourage them to engage in far more.

Police use "grappler" to capture driver after a pursuit | Watch (msn.com)
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Not sure this is the same situation... just notice the amount of cops and equipment used.

 
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NurseGoodVol said:
This Might Be The Most Absurd Case Of Police Harassment Ever
I found this case particularly interesting. His court case can be found here.
https://clearinghouse-umich-production.s3.amazonaws.com/media/doc/63990.pdf
Earl even got his own wiki page..
Earl Sampson - Wikipedia
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They need to end these trivial traffic stops. Nothing but intimidation techniques or fishing expedition when they have no PC.

When the arrests didn’t stop, Saleh filed an internal complaint with the police department, bringing the attention of some of the cops, who did not appreciate Saleh’s criticism of their behavior. He recounted being stopped and harassed by two officers, Carlos Velez and Eddo Trimino, and Sergeant Martin Santiago, who followed him and pulled him over, saying the reason was a burned out tag light. After writing him a ticket, Saleh claimed Santiago then threatened him, saying “I’m going to get you, ************.” When he later viewed security footage of his car, he realized the tag light had never even been out.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-12-old-girl-sustained-231502297.html
"By pursuing charges against Jane Doe, the Kenosha Police Department is attempting to criminalize an innocent child to justify the unjustifiable," the document shared with Insider read. "We fear this is a concerted effort to silence a victim of police brutality and to deflect blame. Jane Doe is an innocent victim and will defend herself against these baseless charges."
 
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VolFaninFla said:
Family of the 12-year-old girl who sustained a traumatic brain injury from a Kenosha officer who says he 'blacked out' and doesn't remember choking her sues police department, school district
"By pursuing charges against Jane Doe, the Kenosha Police Department is attempting to criminalize an innocent child to justify the unjustifiable," the document shared with Insider read. "We fear this is a concerted effort to silence a victim of police brutality and to deflect blame. Jane Doe is an innocent victim and will defend herself against these baseless charges."
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Gawd, I cannot believe I am about to type this, but here it goes.

On the surface, this would seem to be a cop (male) overpowering a 12 year old girl. I'm just going to say that I need a bit more evidence before I come down too hard on this cop. If he was breaking up a fight, especially a girl fight in 2022, don't underestimate that even these 12 year olds can be 175 lbs off the hoof. These can be some pretty big heifers nowadays and trying to separate two swinging women nowadays in a fight where their emotions/adrenaline is pumping and they have some weight behind them also, that might be a pretty difficult task.

Also interesting that they have the victim as "Jane Doe" and use language like this to (possibly) drum up sympathy (similar to those childhood pics we say of Trayvon Martin).
"On March 4, 2022, an adult man lost his temper and choked a child until she suffered a traumatic brain injury. Officer Shawn Guetschow violated Wisconsin criminal and civil law when he held his knee against the back of the neck of a twelve-year-old girl at Lincoln Middle School," read documents shared with Insider by the family's lawyer, Drew DeVinney.
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Again, I need more evidence. I'm all for coming down hard on crooked and abusive cops. But at the same time, we need to be measured in our outrage also.
 
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