To Protect and to Serve II

#8,477
#8,477
Meh. Not me, or my style.

Week or so ago, I got tabbed to serve child support civil papers to a lady way out in the sticks that had given our Warrants/Civil Division deputies a hard time in the past. I go out there...single-wide trailer in a yard that could have served as the set for Sanford & Son...and she comes to the door. Maybe 100 lbs soaking wet, and I get the same treatment. She's mad at the world, me, the court system, the judge, her ex, me again...you get it. There's a pretty good-sized mutt behind her, and it's acting like trouble if it gets past her. She says "I ought to sick my dog on you". Now she's got my full attention, but summing up my ninja smart-ass powers, I say "Ma'am, if that dog has a lick of sense, it will piss on your leg on it's way out the door to a home where it will finally know what love is."

Served her and left. She called to complain. I never heard a word about it after they watched the video.

Poor dog. Has no idea what lies outside that house full of hate.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Meh. Not me, or my style.

Week or so ago, I got tabbed to serve child support civil papers to a lady way out in the sticks that had given our Warrants/Civil Division deputies a hard time in the past. I go out there...single-wide trailer in a yard that could have served as the set for Sanford & Son...and she comes to the door. Maybe 100 lbs soaking wet, and I get the same treatment. She's mad at the world, me, the court system, the judge, her ex, me again...you get it. There's a pretty good-sized mutt behind her, and it's acting like trouble if it gets past her. She says "I ought to sick my dog on you". Now she's got my full attention, but summing up my ninja smart-ass powers, I say "Ma'am, if that dog has a lick of sense, it will piss on your leg on it's way out the door to a home where it will finally know what love is."

Served her and left. She called to complain. I never heard a word about it after they watched the video.

Poor dog. Has no idea what lies outside that house full of hate.
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Child support? Saving the world putting one parent in jail at a time...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Child support? Saving the world putting one parent in jail at a time...
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Not jail, Ras...a court order for a hearing to determine child support obligations. Civil action.

It fell to me as a Patrol Deputy due to her previous aggressive behavior towards the Courts Division. I guess they figured my diplomatic skills would tip the scales, huh?

God forbid that those kids should get the financial support they need from both parents. Usually, when "Mom" gets served, that's what the FBI / GBI would call a "clue". Mom almost always gets the kids, and the money.

High and outside. Ball Two.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Not jail, Ras...a court order for a hearing to determine child support obligations. Civil action.

It fell to me as a Patrol Deputy due to her previous aggressive behavior towards the Courts Division. I guess they figured my diplomatic skills would tip the scales, huh?

God forbid that those kids should get the financial support they need from both parents. Usually, when "Mom" gets served, that's what the FBI / GBI would call a "clue". Mom almost always gets the kids, and the money.

High and outside. Ball Two.
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Why is that even the responsibility of the govt? Govt sends one parent in the state (correctional facility) and puts the other on the state (state sponsored benefits).

Dont cops have killers and thieves to be catching as opposed to getting involved in civil/family matters?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Why is that even the responsibility of the govt? Govt sends one parent in the state (correctional facility) and puts the other on the state (state sponsored benefits).

Dont cops have killers and thieves to be catching as opposed to getting involved in civil/family matters?
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Because if the government (courts) did not compel a non-custodial parent to provide support for the children, exponentially more children (families) would be "on state-sponsored benefits". And non-paying parents typically do not get sent to "state correctional facilities" for non-payment. What they do get is garnishment of wages, and yes...put in the local jail if they defy the court order and fall months/years behind in payment. That usually gets their attention.

Sheriffs / Constables are the "arm of the court". They serve the written orders of the court, and see that those orders are followed. See, you can't just mail it to them, because they can (and do) say "I never got it."

Killers and thieves? Yes. Plenty of them to go around as well. Funny, if we could get people to understand how thinly stretched we already are, and just get normal people to voluntarily comply with the orders of the court, we could devote more time to trying to track down those killers and thieves. Alas, those who do not understand, or respect, the law of the land eat up precious resources that could be used to protect all instead of babysit the few.

Human nature, I suppose. Some folks are like canoes. They have to be paddled to get them to move.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Why is that even the responsibility of the govt? Govt sends one parent in the state (correctional facility) and puts the other on the state (state sponsored benefits).

Dont cops have killers and thieves to be catching as opposed to getting involved in civil/family matters?
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Imagine thinking that police could pick and choose what laws the government writes
 
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#8,484
GreyWolf1129 said:
Because if the government (courts) did not compel a non-custodial parent to provide support for the children, exponentially more children (families) would be "on state-sponsored benefits". And non-paying parents typically do not get sent to "state correctional facilities" for non-payment. What they do get is garnishment of wages, and yes...put in the local jail if they defy the court order and fall months/years behind in payment. That usually gets their attention.

Sheriffs / Constables are the "arm of the court". They serve the written orders of the court, and see that those orders are followed. See, you can't just mail it to them, because they can (and do) say "I never got it."

Killers and thieves? Yes. Plenty of them to go around as well. Funny, if we could get people to understand how thinly stretched we already are, and just get normal people to voluntarily comply with the orders of the court, we could devote more time to trying to track down those killers and thieves. Alas, those who do not understand, or respect, the law of the land eat up precious resources that could be used to protect all instead of babysit the few.

Human nature, I suppose. Some folks are like canoes. They have to be paddled to get them to move.
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How does putting someone in jail pay child support?

And who determines how much is enough to support a child (rhetorical question)?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No they aren't... but they are???
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Well using your example which law enforcement "union" in Tennessee would be able to change legislation for say medical marijuana or wanting to lessen the impact of mandatory child support or domestic violence laws... You act like the police are the reason these laws exist when in reality, politicians, the media, the public themselves, and lawyers are the reason they exist
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Well using your example which law enforcement "union" in Tennessee would be able to change legislation for say medical marijuana or wanting to lessen the impact of mandatory child support or domestic violence laws... You act like the police are the reason these laws exist when in reality, politicians, the media, the public themselves, and lawyers are the reason they exist
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The police, the lawmakers, the judges and a few elites are just different fingers on the same fist.
 
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Here 'ya go, Ras...a few tidbits for you to pick on me over this weekend...

So I worked day shift Wednesday and Thursday. It's been a long month; I ended up pulling 7 shifts this month to cover shortages. I usually do 2-3 a month. I'm tired, and took today off to recover and get ready to go back to Job #1 on Monday.

Anyhoo, a few examples of "The Adventures of a Dirt Road Deputy":

- I made a stop for Speeding (87/70). Nice guy from New Hampshire. He's a maple syrup salesman, and he's been down in Florida hawking his product. "100% Organic Maple Syrup", whatever that is. But my better half is a borderline tree-hugger (who lets me buy guns, you figure that one out). So I lower his speed to 81, as I normally do; he signs; I give him his copy; and then buy a jar of maple syrup from him. He was actually laughing when it was all over. Wife got pretty excited about the syrup.
- Responded to a Cardiac Red call with Fire/EMS. Way out in the country. Those almost never end well, and unfortunately this one didn't either. But the Squad transports, and the firefighter rides with the squad so they can tag-team CPR for the long ride to the hospital, so now here I sit with a fire engine on the side of the road. With the EMS Lt's consent, I drive the pumper back to the station, park it in the bay, and secure the station. Another deputy picks me up and takes me back to my ride. Back when I was FT, I made all of my team train on how to drive a pumper / squad, and run the pre-connects on the pumper so that the first firefighter on scene could gear up and attack the fire. It paid off here, in a small way. The crew from the hub station that moved to fill the gap couldn't believe I knew how to drive the pumper. There are a lot of switches and knobs to move to make one of those things do what you want it to do. Glad I could remember how.
- 911 misdial, again, way out in BFE. The residence sits back in the woods off a "two-path", off of a dirt road. I get there, and Grandma explains that the baby got hold of the phone while she was trying to get something up on Netflix for the baby to watch. But the funny part is the chicken. When I get out of my Tahoe, this insanely fat chicken trots up to me like some sort of guard dog. Follows me to the house; up on the porch, and just stands there staring at me while I'm talking to Grandma. Then it follows me back out to the truck, and trots halfway down the drive behind me while I'm making my way out. Just one of those things that make you chuckle. I sure hope she doesn't end up cooking that chicken; it had a lot of character.
- Hogs on the side of the Interstate. There's this one spot where they come through the fence and root around off the side of the road. One gets hit maybe once a year. They understand that road = death. But we get a number of 911 calls from passing motorists when they come out to forage. Yesterday, the 911 Center got a call reporting "tiny cows" on the side of the road. Tiny cows. Folks, I don't care where you're from, if you can't tell the difference between a feral hog and a cow...

That's about it for this episode. Y'all be safe out there.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
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What can we do to get these dangerous, broken taillight drivers off the streets? I mean, the guy had 1 of 2 taillights broken for Goodness sakes.

Tulsa, OK — If you were to read the police and press report Marico Ferrick’s arrest in September, you would think that this “criminal” with “ten charges” attacked an innocent police officer for no reason, head-butted him, and spit in his face. However, the officer’s body camera footage, released two months later, shows a completely different story of a young man getting held at gunpoint, choked, pepper sprayed, and kidnapped all over stop for a broken taillight.
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Here 'ya go, Ras...a few tidbits for you to pick on me over this weekend...

So I worked day shift Wednesday and Thursday. It's been a long month; I ended up pulling 7 shifts this month to cover shortages. I usually do 2-3 a month. I'm tired, and took today off to recover and get ready to go back to Job #1 on Monday.

Anyhoo, a few examples of "The Adventures of a Dirt Road Deputy":

- I made a stop for Speeding (87/70). Nice guy from New Hampshire. He's a maple syrup salesman, and he's been down in Florida hawking his product. "100% Organic Maple Syrup", whatever that is. But my better half is a borderline tree-hugger (who lets me buy guns, you figure that one out). So I lower his speed to 81, as I normally do; he signs; I give him his copy; and then buy a jar of maple syrup from him. He was actually laughing when it was all over. Wife got pretty excited about the syrup.
- Responded to a Cardiac Red call with Fire/EMS. Way out in the country. Those almost never end well, and unfortunately this one didn't either. But the Squad transports, and the firefighter rides with the squad so they can tag-team CPR for the long ride to the hospital, so now here I sit with a fire engine on the side of the road. With the EMS Lt's consent, I drive the pumper back to the station, park it in the bay, and secure the station. Another deputy picks me up and takes me back to my ride. Back when I was FT, I made all of my team train on how to drive a pumper / squad, and run the pre-connects on the pumper so that the first firefighter on scene could gear up and attack the fire. It paid off here, in a small way. The crew from the hub station that moved to fill the gap couldn't believe I knew how to drive the pumper. There are a lot of switches and knobs to move to make one of those things do what you want it to do. Glad I could remember how.
- 911 misdial, again, way out in BFE. The residence sits back in the woods off a "two-path", off of a dirt road. I get there, and Grandma explains that the baby got hold of the phone while she was trying to get something up on Netflix for the baby to watch. But the funny part is the chicken. When I get out of my Tahoe, this insanely fat chicken trots up to me like some sort of guard dog. Follows me to the house; up on the porch, and just stands there staring at me while I'm talking to Grandma. Then it follows me back out to the truck, and trots halfway down the drive behind me while I'm making my way out. Just one of those things that make you chuckle. I sure hope she doesn't end up cooking that chicken; it had a lot of character.
- Hogs on the side of the Interstate. There's this one spot where they come through the fence and root around off the side of the road. One gets hit maybe once a year. They understand that road = death. But we get a number of 911 calls from passing motorists when they come out to forage. Yesterday, the 911 Center got a call reporting "tiny cows" on the side of the road. Tiny cows. Folks, I don't care where you're from, if you can't tell the difference between a feral hog and a cow...

That's about it for this episode. Y'all be safe out there.
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Thats the lords work. Kudos
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
If you can’t see it, I can’t help you.
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Speeding ticket? He didn’t kill the chicken..

I get a lot of what you guys say. I really do. I understand the system as a whole is a serious over reach and violation of our rights.

But I’m not going to hold every cop responsible for the actions of the government we as a people put in charge. If anything, you and I are responsible for this.
 
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Obsessed said:
Speeding ticket? He didn’t kill the chicken..

I get a lot of what you guys say. I really do. I understand the system as a whole is a serious over reach and violation of our rights.

But I’m not going to hold every cop responsible for the actions of the government we as a people put in charge. If anything, you and I are responsible for this.
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That’s called Stockholm syndrome.

Simple question, OB. What happen’s if the guy who greywolf extorted on the side of the road forgets about the ticket? Keep in mind the guy hasn’t hurt anyone, yet a warrant will be issued for his arrest. What happens if he resists this arrest? Yet extracting money from him makes everything better, right?

Also, this overreaching government wouldn’t have any power over us if not for the enforcers of their edicts.
 
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