To Protect and to Serve II

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Rasputin_Vol said:
No they aren't... but they are???
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Well using your example which law enforcement "union" in Tennessee would be able to change legislation for say medical marijuana or wanting to lessen the impact of mandatory child support or domestic violence laws... You act like the police are the reason these laws exist when in reality, politicians, the media, the public themselves, and lawyers are the reason they exist
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Well using your example which law enforcement "union" in Tennessee would be able to change legislation for say medical marijuana or wanting to lessen the impact of mandatory child support or domestic violence laws... You act like the police are the reason these laws exist when in reality, politicians, the media, the public themselves, and lawyers are the reason they exist
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The police, the lawmakers, the judges and a few elites are just different fingers on the same fist.
 
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Here 'ya go, Ras...a few tidbits for you to pick on me over this weekend...

So I worked day shift Wednesday and Thursday. It's been a long month; I ended up pulling 7 shifts this month to cover shortages. I usually do 2-3 a month. I'm tired, and took today off to recover and get ready to go back to Job #1 on Monday.

Anyhoo, a few examples of "The Adventures of a Dirt Road Deputy":

- I made a stop for Speeding (87/70). Nice guy from New Hampshire. He's a maple syrup salesman, and he's been down in Florida hawking his product. "100% Organic Maple Syrup", whatever that is. But my better half is a borderline tree-hugger (who lets me buy guns, you figure that one out). So I lower his speed to 81, as I normally do; he signs; I give him his copy; and then buy a jar of maple syrup from him. He was actually laughing when it was all over. Wife got pretty excited about the syrup.
- Responded to a Cardiac Red call with Fire/EMS. Way out in the country. Those almost never end well, and unfortunately this one didn't either. But the Squad transports, and the firefighter rides with the squad so they can tag-team CPR for the long ride to the hospital, so now here I sit with a fire engine on the side of the road. With the EMS Lt's consent, I drive the pumper back to the station, park it in the bay, and secure the station. Another deputy picks me up and takes me back to my ride. Back when I was FT, I made all of my team train on how to drive a pumper / squad, and run the pre-connects on the pumper so that the first firefighter on scene could gear up and attack the fire. It paid off here, in a small way. The crew from the hub station that moved to fill the gap couldn't believe I knew how to drive the pumper. There are a lot of switches and knobs to move to make one of those things do what you want it to do. Glad I could remember how.
- 911 misdial, again, way out in BFE. The residence sits back in the woods off a "two-path", off of a dirt road. I get there, and Grandma explains that the baby got hold of the phone while she was trying to get something up on Netflix for the baby to watch. But the funny part is the chicken. When I get out of my Tahoe, this insanely fat chicken trots up to me like some sort of guard dog. Follows me to the house; up on the porch, and just stands there staring at me while I'm talking to Grandma. Then it follows me back out to the truck, and trots halfway down the drive behind me while I'm making my way out. Just one of those things that make you chuckle. I sure hope she doesn't end up cooking that chicken; it had a lot of character.
- Hogs on the side of the Interstate. There's this one spot where they come through the fence and root around off the side of the road. One gets hit maybe once a year. They understand that road = death. But we get a number of 911 calls from passing motorists when they come out to forage. Yesterday, the 911 Center got a call reporting "tiny cows" on the side of the road. Tiny cows. Folks, I don't care where you're from, if you can't tell the difference between a feral hog and a cow...

That's about it for this episode. Y'all be safe out there.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
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What can we do to get these dangerous, broken taillight drivers off the streets? I mean, the guy had 1 of 2 taillights broken for Goodness sakes.

Tulsa, OK — If you were to read the police and press report Marico Ferrick’s arrest in September, you would think that this “criminal” with “ten charges” attacked an innocent police officer for no reason, head-butted him, and spit in his face. However, the officer’s body camera footage, released two months later, shows a completely different story of a young man getting held at gunpoint, choked, pepper sprayed, and kidnapped all over stop for a broken taillight.
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Here 'ya go, Ras...a few tidbits for you to pick on me over this weekend...

So I worked day shift Wednesday and Thursday. It's been a long month; I ended up pulling 7 shifts this month to cover shortages. I usually do 2-3 a month. I'm tired, and took today off to recover and get ready to go back to Job #1 on Monday.

Anyhoo, a few examples of "The Adventures of a Dirt Road Deputy":

- I made a stop for Speeding (87/70). Nice guy from New Hampshire. He's a maple syrup salesman, and he's been down in Florida hawking his product. "100% Organic Maple Syrup", whatever that is. But my better half is a borderline tree-hugger (who lets me buy guns, you figure that one out). So I lower his speed to 81, as I normally do; he signs; I give him his copy; and then buy a jar of maple syrup from him. He was actually laughing when it was all over. Wife got pretty excited about the syrup.
- Responded to a Cardiac Red call with Fire/EMS. Way out in the country. Those almost never end well, and unfortunately this one didn't either. But the Squad transports, and the firefighter rides with the squad so they can tag-team CPR for the long ride to the hospital, so now here I sit with a fire engine on the side of the road. With the EMS Lt's consent, I drive the pumper back to the station, park it in the bay, and secure the station. Another deputy picks me up and takes me back to my ride. Back when I was FT, I made all of my team train on how to drive a pumper / squad, and run the pre-connects on the pumper so that the first firefighter on scene could gear up and attack the fire. It paid off here, in a small way. The crew from the hub station that moved to fill the gap couldn't believe I knew how to drive the pumper. There are a lot of switches and knobs to move to make one of those things do what you want it to do. Glad I could remember how.
- 911 misdial, again, way out in BFE. The residence sits back in the woods off a "two-path", off of a dirt road. I get there, and Grandma explains that the baby got hold of the phone while she was trying to get something up on Netflix for the baby to watch. But the funny part is the chicken. When I get out of my Tahoe, this insanely fat chicken trots up to me like some sort of guard dog. Follows me to the house; up on the porch, and just stands there staring at me while I'm talking to Grandma. Then it follows me back out to the truck, and trots halfway down the drive behind me while I'm making my way out. Just one of those things that make you chuckle. I sure hope she doesn't end up cooking that chicken; it had a lot of character.
- Hogs on the side of the Interstate. There's this one spot where they come through the fence and root around off the side of the road. One gets hit maybe once a year. They understand that road = death. But we get a number of 911 calls from passing motorists when they come out to forage. Yesterday, the 911 Center got a call reporting "tiny cows" on the side of the road. Tiny cows. Folks, I don't care where you're from, if you can't tell the difference between a feral hog and a cow...

That's about it for this episode. Y'all be safe out there.
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Thats the lords work. Kudos
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
If you can’t see it, I can’t help you.
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Speeding ticket? He didn’t kill the chicken..

I get a lot of what you guys say. I really do. I understand the system as a whole is a serious over reach and violation of our rights.

But I’m not going to hold every cop responsible for the actions of the government we as a people put in charge. If anything, you and I are responsible for this.
 
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Obsessed said:
Speeding ticket? He didn’t kill the chicken..

I get a lot of what you guys say. I really do. I understand the system as a whole is a serious over reach and violation of our rights.

But I’m not going to hold every cop responsible for the actions of the government we as a people put in charge. If anything, you and I are responsible for this.
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That’s called Stockholm syndrome.

Simple question, OB. What happen’s if the guy who greywolf extorted on the side of the road forgets about the ticket? Keep in mind the guy hasn’t hurt anyone, yet a warrant will be issued for his arrest. What happens if he resists this arrest? Yet extracting money from him makes everything better, right?

Also, this overreaching government wouldn’t have any power over us if not for the enforcers of their edicts.
 
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Obsessed said:
Speeding ticket? He didn’t kill the chicken..

I get a lot of what you guys say. I really do. I understand the system as a whole is a serious over reach and violation of our rights.

But I’m not going to hold every cop responsible for the actions of the government we as a people put in charge. If anything, you and I are responsible for this.
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It's all good. I get DTH. I don't understand him, but I get it. Funny thing is, if you go over to the 2A thread, we get along just fine over there. He has a very nice collection of freedom sticks, and I get a lot of good advice from him. So it's a weird friendship, but it works. I prefer to value the friendship over the difference of opinion on the role of peace officers. He has his points about excesses and overreaches, but he's also talking about a very small percentage of those who took the oath.

I just enjoy occasionally posting the amusing or interesting tidbits from what I see out there. "Cops" or "Live PD" it ain't...usually, it's more along the lines of Mayberry, but we do have our high pucker factor moments. Those I usually leave out, since they invite more controversy. But just FYI, earlier this month we had a chase come out of Florida at 6 am. Domestic kidnapping. He's on the phone with his Dad, telling him how he's going to kill himself and his wife, who's in the car with him (victim). We pick up the chase just inside GA, and it goes 16 more miles at speeds in excess of 90. Finally get the car with stopsticks, then PIT, and take him into custody after two Taser deployments and what can only be described as a vulgar pigpile. I was on the sticks, and part of the pile.

He's alive, albeit probably looking at an extended vacation with the DoC, and she's alive. I'll trade that for any criticism that's leveled, or even deserved, about serving as the arm of an over-reaching government. Had we not "reached" him, odds are that both of them would be dead right now.

Tiny cows. I'm still stuck on that one.....
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What can we do to get these dangerous, broken taillight drivers off the streets? I mean, the guy had 1 of 2 taillights broken for Goodness sakes.
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You cant drive without tail lights because it's a danger to others on the roadway. This idiot refused to show ID or get out of the car when asked, and wasnt going to take a citation. By law, the officer must take that person to the magistrate under arrest. Seems pretty open and shut case....you can debate the law from a moral stand point, but you can't deny the person in the video broke the law, and caused his own arrest
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
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I’m going to bet the cops had a general idea of who that kid was. Usually, when you see videos of people acting like that from the get go with the protesting and screaming for their moms, they are usually up to something. I’d like to know the full story on this one before I condemn the officer. That being said, he did escalate it quickly. He wasn’t a threat at any point and there was no need to cuff him at any point that I saw.
 
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davethevol said:
I’m going to bet the cops had a general idea of who that kid was. Usually, when you see videos of people acting like that from the get go with the protesting and screaming for their moms, they are usually up to something. I’d like to know the full story on this one before I condemn the officer. That being said, he did escalate it quickly. He wasn’t a threat at any point and there was no need to cuff him at any point that I saw.
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Lets work off of that assumption.

I'm sure this cop would have known that this guy was nothing more than a loudmouth momma's boy... not El Chapo.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You cant drive without tail lights because it's a danger to others on the roadway.
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Every vehicle outside of maybe motorcycles (and even that may not be true) has at least 2 tailights. Relax.

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This idiot refused to show ID or get out of the car when asked, and wasnt going to take a citation.
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You must not have seen the same video I saw. The video I saw was of the cop pulling out his gun as soon as he exited the cruiser. What insight did that cop have at that very moment that the driver wasn't going to show ID? And the driver did get out of the car, but the cop asked him to get back in the car while he had his Glock aimed at him.

Rickyvol77 said:
By law, the officer must take that person to the magistrate under arrest. Seems pretty open and shut case....you can debate the law from a moral stand point, but you can't deny the person in the video broke the law, and caused his own arrest
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I'm not arguing whether the driver broke the law. So what? For violating a minor traffic law, you get to have some sadist roll up on you with guns blazing?
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
It's all good. I get DTH. I don't understand him, but I get it. Funny thing is, if you go over to the 2A thread, we get along just fine over there. He has a very nice collection of freedom sticks, and I get a lot of good advice from him. So it's a weird friendship, but it works. I prefer to value the friendship over the difference of opinion on the role of peace officers. He has his points about excesses and overreaches, but he's also talking about a very small percentage of those who took the oath.

I just enjoy occasionally posting the amusing or interesting tidbits from what I see out there. "Cops" or "Live PD" it ain't...usually, it's more along the lines of Mayberry, but we do have our high pucker factor moments. Those I usually leave out, since they invite more controversy. But just FYI, earlier this month we had a chase come out of Florida at 6 am. Domestic kidnapping. He's on the phone with his Dad, telling him how he's going to kill himself and his wife, who's in the car with him (victim). We pick up the chase just inside GA, and it goes 16 more miles at speeds in excess of 90. Finally get the car with stopsticks, then PIT, and take him into custody after two Taser deployments and what can only be described as a vulgar pigpile. I was on the sticks, and part of the pile.

He's alive, albeit probably looking at an extended vacation with the DoC, and she's alive. I'll trade that for any criticism that's leveled, or even deserved, about serving as the arm of an over-reaching government. Had we not "reached" him, odds are that both of them would be dead right now.

Tiny cows. I'm still stuck on that one.....
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I guess my thing is that most cops simply don't understand several simple things when it comes to interacting with civilians. One, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. If the only interaction most people have with cops is petty assed traffic violations or citations that are going to drain money out of their pockets for the smallest of infractions, then how can they really expect much civilian support? Also, in their effort to gain "command presence", they end up either escalating a situation or just being disrespectful and arrogant. Lastly, the fishing and poking that cops do in an effort to shakedown and trap citizens ("You mind if I search your car?", "Where are you going?", "Any guns or bombs in you car?")... It's like the 4th Amendment doesn't even register in their day to day interactions with civilians. And to be honest, they should assume ALL citizens have a gun since the 2A is still legal (for now).
 
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