To Protect and to Serve II

You didn't hear the officer testify so you had no chance to judge his credibility. You heard nothing of the forensics or toxicology. The jury deliberated two days on this.

I judged the officer’s credibility when I saw him murder the guy on video. The jury scares me as much as this guy walking.
 
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The jurors saw the video.

Graphic video shows Daniel Shaver sobbing and begging officer for his life before 2016 shooting - The Washington Post


Yet again on this forum, we have a contingent just out of their minds about a trial result, or even just a case, knowing just a sliver of the facts.

You didn't hear the officer testify so you had no chance to judge his credibility. You heard nothing of the forensics or toxicology. The jury deliberated two days on this.


You also jumped to conclusions in Ferguson. Or with Trayvon Martin.

You know nothing other than what you've read and heard biased commentators say about the trial in San Fran.

Two of those didn't go your way and you think you know better from piecemeal info and scream about the jurors and the system.

Two did go your way and You applaud the jurors or other decision-makers for seeing through the smoke and doing the right thing.

Quit judging cases on 1 out of 20 facts.

A sliver of the facts? I'd say a first person view of him murdering a man on his hands and knees is a bit more than a sliver.
 
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The jurors saw the video.

Graphic video shows Daniel Shaver sobbing and begging officer for his life before 2016 shooting - The Washington Post


Yet again on this forum, we have a contingent just out of their minds about a trial result, or even just a case, knowing just a sliver of the facts.

You didn't hear the officer testify so you had no chance to judge his credibility. You heard nothing of the forensics or toxicology. The jury deliberated two days on this.


You also jumped to conclusions in Ferguson. Or with Trayvon Martin.

You know nothing other than what you've read and heard biased commentators say about the trial in San Fran.

Two of those didn't go your way and you think you know better from piecemeal info and scream about the jurors and the system.

Two did go your way and You applaud the jurors or other decision-makers for seeing through the smoke and doing the right thing.

Quit judging cases on 1 out of 20 facts.

Why am I not surprised that the resident police lapdog is in here defending this?
 
I saw that yesterday and wish I wouldn't have. The cop had that poor guy scared s***less and was giving confusing commands..... hands straight up and crawl to me....I wish the dude wouldn't have put his hand back by his waist.... that was horrible.

You're right about the confusing commands.

"I didn't tell you to uncross your legs"

Then the next command is "crawl to me"

Was he supposed to crawl with his legs crossed?
 
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Dirty stinking cops... planting words and coaching along an obviously mentally challenged suspect. Cops have zero scruples...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYOaIDxirHE&t=1103s[/youtube]
 
The jurors saw the video.

Graphic video shows Daniel Shaver sobbing and begging officer for his life before 2016 shooting - The Washington Post


Yet again on this forum, we have a contingent just out of their minds about a trial result, or even just a case, knowing just a sliver of the facts.

You didn't hear the officer testify so you had no chance to judge his credibility. You heard nothing of the forensics or toxicology. The jury deliberated two days on this.


You also jumped to conclusions in Ferguson. Or with Trayvon Martin.

You know nothing other than what you've read and heard biased commentators say about the trial in San Fran.

Two of those didn't go your way and you think you know better from piecemeal info and scream about the jurors and the system.

Two did go your way and You applaud the jurors or other decision-makers for seeing through the smoke and doing the right thing.

Quit judging cases on 1 out of 20 facts.

Please. The only person who jumped to conclusions on those shootings were you.
 
Bad situation for both. They could have handled it better. I don't blame the shooter. His ranking officer clearly said we will shoot you if you do that again. And he did it again.

I also went to school with him and he was always a good kid.

He made a horrible decision
He should have had the guy put his hands behind his head and cuffed him

He killed an innocent man
 
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Lets see a police officer comment on the Shaver shooting video...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ornTSd1atoI[/youtube]
 
Am I the only who finds it strange that this whole incident happened when the SWAT team was deployed to this man's room due to his 100% legal possession of a rifle, yet the NRA hasn't come out and said a word?

At a minimum they need to condemn the SWAT deployment and call for law enforcement education regarding Arizona gun laws.

I won't hold my breath.
 
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I watched the video and I can't get it out of my head. He had You're F**ked engraved on his rifle. You could also tell he was getting off on it from the way he talked. He should have never been a cop. In was on a power trip.

Cops are going to cop. No surprise there.

My strongest outrage is reserved for that jury...
 
Cops are going to cop. No surprise there.

My strongest outrage is reserved for that jury...

You’ve got to wonder if that jury was not impartial. From the officer’s own words from the beginning and how he behaved, it was clear he was itching to shoot someone. If it hasn’t been that day, it would have happened later on.
 
Lets see a police officer comment on the Shaver shooting video...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ornTSd1atoI[/youtube]

Of course, he protects his own. This was not an act of self defense. It was clearly an act of murder. No civilian would've got away with this.

"I told him if he did x, I'd kill him" isn't a valid defense.
 
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"You're not going to jail or anything..."

Then why are you cops handcuffing her?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH9kUehqk-s[/youtube]
 
"You're not going to jail or anything..."

Then why are you cops handcuffing her?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH9kUehqk-s[/youtube]

I don’t see an issue with this one. You can find YouTube videos with gang member kids with guns. I saw one recently where kids probably as young as 10 had guns in their waistbands getting harassed by adult gang members on a pubic sidewalk.
 
Here in Indiana we have had 2 straight days of officers being shot in the LOD. Luckily both are going to be fine. One was a graze wound to the head!
 
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