To Protect and to Serve II

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GreyWolf1129 said:
Depends on the standard being applied...yours, or the existing laws regarding justified use of deadly force.

I admit to some bias here, (a) being an LEO, and (b) having been shot at by a criminal. Comes with the job, but it's just one of those things that you have to experience to really get the, well...experience.

Not picking, but go walk the mile. Then talk.
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You don't happen to work in Sequatchie County, do you?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The vast majority of cases being discussed in here are cases where the victim didn't have a gun and fire at the cops.
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The vast majority of the cases that are being discussed here are the exception, not the rule. There are literally tens of thousands of uses of force every year, even the ones where deadly force is used are the exception, not the rule.

You literally discuss the one-in-a-million cases as if they're standard operating procedures and then use them to vilify LE; loose cigarettes, fleeing felon, et al.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
The vast majority of the cases that are being discussed here are the exception, not the rule. There are literally tens of thousands of uses of force every year, even the ones where deadly force is used are the exception, not the rule.

You literally discuss the one-in-a-million cases as if they're standard operating procedures and then use them to vilify LE; loose cigarettes, fleeing felon, et al.
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You call it vilification... that's funny. Most people (even Grand Vol at times) admit that the majority of these cases are examples of cops going too far to resolve a problem. But there are far, far too many still that will defend the cops 100% of the time. And then, of course, we have to show this reverence to cops ("thanks for your service") that we normally don't show to anyone else. But we are good govt serfs. Pay our respects to soldiers and officers and the govt enforcers, but the other men of our society that work in just as dangerous (or more dangerous) professions are given no such reverence. In fact, they are just as likely to be gunned down by cops just as much as person from the hood.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Just curious, but have you ever told a lineman, roofer, commercial fisherman, lumberjack or a miner "thanks for your service"?
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Police officers and service men and women don't just risk their lives but they do it with a variable that a roofer, lineman, lumberjack or miner don't, which is a danger inflicted purposefully by someone who may be in a senseless state of mind, fearful of consequences to crimes they committed or malicious in nature. Lumberjacks, miners, roofers, etc. are a victim of accidents not acts of intention.

Your point is ridiculous. I don't recall a lumberjack about to head out after they get a coffee and instead they get shot in the head for being a lumberjack. You fail to understand what it's like to be a leo.

There are times when excessive force occurs and there are also millions of interactions officers have with civilians on a daily basis. Yes excessive force should be handled appropriately. But you want them all hung by the neck regardless of the situation. It's ridiculous.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You call it vilification... that's funny. Most people (even Grand Vol at times) admit that the majority of these cases are examples of cops going too far to resolve a problem. But there are far, far too many still that will defend the cops 100% of the time. And then, of course, we have to show this reverence to cops ("thanks for your service") that we normally don't show to anyone else. But we are good govt serfs. Pay our respects to soldiers and officers and the govt enforcers, but the other men of our society that work in just as dangerous (or more dangerous) professions are given no such reverence. In fact, they are just as likely to be gunned down by cops just as much as person from the hood.
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Actually, some of us show it to all first responders and military. I.E. fire departments, EMTs and police. And telling someone their actions are appreciated is not "reverence" by any means. It's just a nice way of showing gratitude for someone performing a thankless job that not many choose as their profession.

Your post seems more like sour grapes that you haven't been appreciated enough in your endeavors in life.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Just curious, but have you ever told a lineman, roofer, commercial fisherman, lumberjack or a miner "thanks for your service"?
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You didn't ask me, but I thank the people who clean our breakrooms at work. Just how I choose to go through life.

And I've thanked linemen--taken them coffee and dinner while they restored power after storms. Never spoken to a commercial fisherman, lumberjack or miner that I know of.

I know you have beef with cops. But not all are bad, and they choose to go in harms way for me and my family. The question you aked above is petty and really detracts from the actualy point you're trying to make.
 
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Hmm, I don't suppose anyone has read the tales of the Pacific Northwest lumberjacks vs the Greenpeace activists. Greenies lose their **** over some trees.

Perhaps lumberjack isn't the best example. I mean, being it usually fluctuates with fishermen as the most dangerous job in the world.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Hmm, I don't suppose anyone has read the tales of the Pacific Northwest lumberjacks vs the Greenpeace activists. Greenies lose their **** over some trees.

Perhaps lumberjack isn't the best example. I mean, being it usually fluctuates with fishermen as the most dangerous job in the world.
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Forgot to mention you, thanks for working in the steel mills which brings me AR barrels and other assorted gun goodies.
 
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utvols88 said:
Police officers and service men and women don't just risk their lives but they do it with a variable that a roofer, lineman, lumberjack or miner don't, which is a danger inflicted purposefully by someone who may be in a senseless state of mind, fearful of consequences to crimes they committed or malicious in nature. Lumberjacks, miners, roofers, etc. are a victim of accidents not acts of intention.

Your point is ridiculous. I don't recall a lumberjack about to head out after they get a coffee and instead they get shot in the head for being a lumberjack. You fail to understand what it's like to be a leo.

There are times when excessive force occurs and there are also millions of interactions officers have with civilians on a daily basis. Yes excessive force should be handled appropriately. But you want them all hung by the neck regardless of the situation. It's ridiculous.
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Look at who's being ridiculous...
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You didn't ask me, but I thank the people who clean our breakrooms at work. Just how I choose to go through life.

And I've thanked linemen--taken them coffee and dinner while they restored power after storms. Never spoken to a commercial fisherman, lumberjack or miner that I know of.

I know you have beef with cops. But not all are bad, and they choose to go in harms way for me and my family. The question you aked above is petty and really detracts from the actualy point you're trying to make.
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I didn't realize I ever said all cops were bad. Link?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Your post seems more like sour grapes that you haven't been appreciated enough in your endeavors in life.
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Nah, I'm cool.

But in reality, you hardly ever see anybody tell a blue collar private sector worker "thanks for your service". Its normally either a soldier or someone in law enforcement (govt enforcers). Hell, I don't think I've hardly ever heard of anyone saying that to a fireman.
 
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