To Protect and to Serve II

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Boy...that all went south in a hurry. I feel like I just sat through a Sovereign Citizen Indoctrination course. Similarities are striking.

Now, those folks are nuts. Chocolate covered.
 
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LouderVol said:
right, because the government should bend over back wards for you. you are so special that you matter more than the rest of the nation. you want to take away the same rights you rail against losing. you want to take away a group of individuals right to decide what it is they want. despite what people believe they still vote as individuals. deny them the right to choose and I don't see how you are any better.

individual decides he wants to live in a cage. you are all for it. group of individuals decide to live in a cage and what color it is. sharing the cage you complain about the color.

forget society, why does your preference rule over mine?
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I want to decide what to do with my life and property and I want everyone else to do as they choose with their life and property. I believe all interactions between people should be voluntary. There is no greater minority than the individual. Perhaps we’ll get there, one day.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
DTH is an anarchist. He believes in zero government.
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I believe in the individual. If people want to form a government of some kind, and I can voluntarily opt out, without consequences, so be it.

The true measure of your freedom is the ability to opt out of something without consequence.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I believe in the individual. If people want to form a government of some kind, and I can voluntarily opt out, without consequences, so be it.

The true measure of your freedom is the ability to opt out of something without consequence.
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So if we come up with this government and we have a road that comes by your house, you can't use it? How are you going to get from point a to point b? Are you going to have to cross other private property? Are you going to have to negotiate with each private property owner?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So if we come up with this government and we have a road that comes by your house, you can't use it? How are you going to get from point a to point b? Are you going to have to cross other private property? Are you going to have to negotiate with each private property owner?
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We’d work out something. It’s a true testament to your state worship that you actually think the government owns everything, including the roads.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
We’d work out something. It’s a true testament to your state worship that you actually think the government owns everything, including the roads.
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The government, you and I own the roads and you and I pay taxes to maintain them. It's a true testament of your naivety thinking you could survive without some government functions.
 
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Vol8188 said:
How about the: drug dealers are treated as all other community businessmen campaign?
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Funny that we treat drug users and dealers like the worst criminally imaginable, yet we don't see cops going after politicians and banksters with the same level of enthusiasm. Or for that matter, corrupt doctors that just prescribe pills like candy.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I do think I'm fair. But I don't base my actions on what I think is "good", I base them on the laws in force, the information or evidence at hand, the oath I took, and my best judgment as to what the right course of action is. I don't get it right all the time, but I have a pretty solid batting average.
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Here it is again... the oath.

Just curious, but what oath is it that LEOs have to take exactly? Maybe us civilians are misunderstanding what that oath means.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Some people blame the cop when their real beef is with the laws.
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Of course it is with the laws. But you have just read two cops say that they exercise their own discretion with regards to when or if they choose to enforce those laws. Seems like the poor guy gets worked over by the cops but the real criminals in the pressed white collar shirts get a pass.

Nothing would make my day more than to see some cop arrest a lawmaker for violating the constitution or stealing from the taxpayers.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Whatever, wherever, laws are laws. If you don't like them get them changed. How many of you cop haters have actually worked to get the laws you despise changed. If you haven't, you don't have the right to complain.
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You think voting matters? How old are you... 8 years old?

Do you believe in Santa Claus also?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
You answered your first question with your second answer. Just because your morality says it's wrong doesn't mean it's wrong. You're applying your morality to the laws. If I said I thought murder was ok and should not be prosecuted, I'm sure you would not be ok with murder being legal. I'm a libertarian as well. I believe similar to you about freedom.
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No, you total missed what he said. He clearly stated anything that doesn't affect anyone else. Ckearly, murder doesn't fall in that category.
 
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The last page and a half of this toxic bull****¡t is exactly why I usually stay the hell away from this thread.

You may now resume your anarchist tirade.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No, you total missed what he said. He clearly stated anything that doesn't affect anyone else. Ckearly, murder doesn't fall in that category.
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Did you comprehend, bro? I used that example because it was as rediculous as his example of cops being ordered to kill children. Come on, read it again, maybe you can understand.
 
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