To Protect and to Serve II

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lawgator1 said:
No, this is specific to the situation where the cop reasonably perceives a deadly threat, even if mistaken, and chooses to use deadly force rather than lower level of force.
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Was the pathetic, drunken guy crawling on his belly in the hotel hallway, pleading for his life while trying to follow contradicting commands screamed at him aggressively, reasonably perceived as a fatal threat?

Am I allowed to use that same definition of "reasonably" even though I'm not a cop?
 
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Man killed by police; online gaming community blames 'swatting' | The Wichita Eagle

Family talks about son killed by police in swatting | The Wichita Eagle

From what I can tell via multiple new stories, two online gamers got into an argument over a two dollar bet. One swatted the other. Swatting is apparently to call a 911 murder or hostage situation to the other person's address in order to get a massive police response to that address.

The Person who called in the swatting called in the wrong address. Police show up and get into position. Innocent 28 year old guy answers the door and gets gunned down by a police officer.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Was the pathetic, drunken guy crawling on his belly in the hotel hallway, pleading for his life while trying to follow contradicting commands screamed at him aggressively, reasonably perceived as a fatal threat?

Am I allowed to use that same definition of "reasonably" even though I'm not a cop?
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Exactly... I've been saying for years that if situations like this, when the shooting was so obviously not justified, were met with swift and unified condemnation by the law enforcement community and the officers involved were held accountable then people would be far more likely to give them the benefit of the doubt in questionable situations.

The problem is they don't and, as far as I can tell, never will. As a result, they're losing more and more of the public's trust by the day and a large portion of our society simply doesn't trust law enforcement. And I'm sorry but they have no one to blame but themselves.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Exactly... I've been saying for years that if situations like this, when the shooting was so obviously not justified, were met with swift and unified condemnation by the law enforcement community and the officers involved were held accountable then people would be far more likely to give them the benefit of the doubt in questionable situations.

The problem is they don't and, as far as I can tell, never will. As a result, they losing more and more of the public's trust by the day and a large portion of our society simply doesn't trust law enforcement. And I'm sorry but they have no one to blame but themselves.
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It isn't just the cops. We have far too many blue pill citizens that will defend anyone in uniform or any action they commit. These are the "thank you for your service" types.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Man killed by police; online gaming community blames 'swatting' | The Wichita Eagle

Family talks about son killed by police in swatting | The Wichita Eagle

From what I can tell via multiple new stories, two online gamers got into an argument over a two dollar bet. One swatted the other. Swatting is apparently to call a 911 murder or hostage situation to the other person's address in order to get a massive police response to that address.

The Person who called in the swatting called in the wrong address. Police show up and get into position. Innocent 28 year old guy answers the door and gets gunned down by a police officer.
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I read this earlier and it's heart breaking. I'll wait til more info comes out before I'm too critical but I will say there's a fairly giant hurdle in the way of them justifying this one.

And the punks that set this up need to be charged with first degree murder and I'd be in favor of the death penalty.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
I read this earlier and it's heart breaking. I'll wait til more info comes out before I'm too critical but I will say there's a fairly giant hurdle in the way of them justifying this one.

And the punks that set this up need to be charged with first degree murder and I'd be in favor of the death penalty.
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Agreed. You just can't let loose these cops on someone and not expect them to come out with guns blazing and a blood thirst to take down a civilian. Fish swim. Birds fly. Cops kill.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Agreed. You just can't let loose these cops on someone and not expect them to come out with guns blazing and a blood thirst to take down a civilian. Fish swim. Birds fly. Cops kill.
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Well it certainly is ridiculous that one of the quickest ways to get someone shot is by sending the cops to their house.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Was the pathetic, drunken guy crawling on his belly in the hotel hallway, pleading for his life while trying to follow contradicting commands screamed at him aggressively, reasonably perceived as a fatal threat?

Am I allowed to use that same definition of "reasonably" even though I'm not a cop?
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I don't know. A jury will decide.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Well it certainly is ridiculous that one of the quickest ways to get someone shot is by sending the cops to their house.
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If you called 911 and told them the guy has killed several people and is armed it sorta increases the odds they use deadly force.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well, the suspect in that case is dead and the officer that shot him was acquitted.
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So you saw the video, read some articles, and your judgment is superior to the collective judgment of the jury who sat there for days, saw all the evidence, and deliberated?

You have an uninformed opinion. That's it.
 
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Would love for some of these “anti cop” people to do a ride along or join a reserve program in their town and see how much their opinions change after they experience what we (Law Enforcement) see and deal with on a daily basis.
 
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Blake25p said:
Would love for some of these “anti cop” people to do a ride along or join a reserve program in their town and see how much their opinions change after they experience what we (Law Enforcement) see and deal with on a daily basis.
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You probably see the worst of humanity. Does that mean you get to violate their human rights?
 
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In Oxford, Ohio it is unlawful for a woman to appear in public while unshaven. This includes legs and face.

State code deems it unlawful for any person to have in his possession or to display any red or black flag. Source: West Virginia Code 61-1-6

Oklahoma
It Is Illegal To Have A sleeping Donkey In Your Bathtub After 7pm
 
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Grand Vol said:
I see you woke up this morning and had your cup of hate.
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I’ve been on night shift for a month with one day off, that day being Christmas. Don’t start with me.

I’m sure the good police officers in those two incidents are great fellas....
 

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