To Protect and to Serve II

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orangeblood79 said:
The first statement that you made to me was defending a point that DTH made, which was there are no good cops. I took that personally and responded in kind. While you may have given credence to the fact that I busted a child rapist this week, you argued my good act does not cancel out all the bad acts by people within my profession, and then lectured me on why I ever brought it up in the first place. That was not and was never my point. It was an affront to DTH's comment and your defense of his comment, which I also took personally, warranted my subsuquent response.

You then saw fit to list all of the good deeds that you have done within your profession this week as a snide affront to mine.

My response was not misplaced, though harsh. As I've stated before, its intent was to give you a very real glimpse of the generalizations that are reiterated concerning police officers within this thread everyday. It was said in anger for you defending DTH's comments and mean spirited and for that, I apologize. I brought myself down a level while speaking in anger. I do not wish to make enemies here but if my comments have then that's the price I pay.

What I will not apologize for is bringing relvant information to this thread when I belive it's needed. Information that sheds light onto situations so that people can understand the actions taken by law enforcement, good and bad.
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You had a lot of assumptions in there about what my attitudes and intents were. You may want to put that kind of thing on a bit of a leash in the future. Other than that, you keep doing you, officer.

Good day and good luck.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You had a lot of assumptions in there about what my attitdes and intents were. You may want to put that kind of thing on a bit of a leash in the future. Other than that, you keep doing you, officer.

Good day and good luck.
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Agree to disagree. Have a nice day.
 
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It's not the apples, it's the barrel. Cops are individuals doing a job, some with the best of intentions. That doesn't change the fact of what the system is, a monopoly on the use of force in a given geographical area. Politicians are nothing more than violence brokers. Their enforcement arm, or, (the bloody tip of the spear) if you will, are cops. Name any bad actor throughout history and you'll quickly realize they could've never gotten away with such heinous atrocities absent cops and military. Facts are facts, and gangs are gangs.

So take issue with what you will, you are simply an apple in a rotten barrel.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
If you understood me from the beginning, like you say you did, then you understood it was a general point I was making and not a specific accusation. However misplaced you felt it was, it wasn't, it simply hit close to home and you didn't like it. I get it, I do.
For the record, those monsters who have been caught doing that sort of thing are the EXCEPTION not the RULE. It hit close to home for you and I get that...

Sort of like when an officer involved shooting happens and all of a sudden every cop is a trigger happy racist who can't wait to take down a bunch of minorities.

Again, you didn't accuse me of these things, but it parallels the point I'm making here; the actions of the few do not represent the actions of the whole.
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The difference is that you don't see most people of the church looking for reasons to cut these priests any slack. On the other hand, defenders of LE will turn over every stone imaginable to look for a defense or justification for a cop shooting a guy in the back.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The difference is that you don't see most people of the church looking for reasons to cut these priests any slack. On the other hand, defenders of LE will turn over every stone imaginable to look for a defense or justification for a cop shooting a guy in the back.
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Full of 👇
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm not speaking specifically about you; thank you for that.

However, generally speaking, one "good" act does not cancel out one "bad" act.

You can't mug an old lady, then help another across the street so that you can claim to be a good person.

Police can't destroy innocent lives or trample citizen rights then point to their good deeds and expect people to feel like the scales have been balanced. It doesn't work that way.

Oh... and ETA:

I did marital counseling and saw the Lord act radically. All indications are that a 3 year old will not grow up in a split home.

I performed Biblical counseling with a recovering opiate addict, who didn't succumb again this week.

I counseled the victim of sexual abuse.

I didn't trample anyone's rights that I know of, or treat anyone as though they are guilty until proven innocent.
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Just curious counselor, doesn't the Bible teach us to submit with humility to earthly authority as into the Lord himself? And doesn't it also say that if we are treated wrongly by those in authority we are to endure it rather than railing against it? 1 Peter 2: 13-20.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Just curious counselor, doesn't the Bible teach us to submit with humility to earthly authority as into the Lord himself? And doesn't it also say that if we are treated wrongly by those in authority we are to endure it rather than railing against it? 1 Peter 2: 13-20.
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Is this the same Peter that raised a sword on the Roman cops and cut off an ear when they tried to unjustly detain Jesus?

When Jesus saw the injustice of the money changers, didn't he rail against them and run them out the Temple?
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Just curious counselor, doesn't the Bible teach us to submit with humility to earthly authority as into the Lord himself? And doesn't it also say that if we are treated wrongly by those in authority we are to endure it rather than railing against it? 1 Peter 2: 13-20.
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It says similar in Romans as well.

If officer79 pulls me over when I'm driving through Nashville, I will submit, just as I do any time I deal with those in authority over me.

Now, what does that have to do with discussions on in the interwebz? Has he been made the Interwebz czar?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Is this the same Peter that raised a sword on the Roman cops and cut off an ear when they tried to unjustly detain Jesus?

When Jesus saw the injustice of the money changers, didn't he rail against them and run them out the Temple?
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Did you read the entire story?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
It says similar in Romans as well.

If officer79 pulls me over when I'm driving through Nashville, I will submit, just as I do any time I deal with those in authority over me.

Now, what does that have to do with discussions on in the interwebz? Has he been made the Interwebz czar?
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Fair enough
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The difference is that you don't see most people of the church looking for reasons to cut these priests any slack. On the other hand, defenders of LE will turn over every stone imaginable to look for a defense or justification for a cop shooting a guy in the back.
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I would like you to reference where I came to the defense of a cop who shot someone in the back.

The evil and malicious Supreme Court has ruled numerous times that deadly force on a fleeing felon is illegal and unjust. In fact, the two main court cases that govern use of force for law enforcement spell it out specifically:

Tennessee v. Garner
Graham v. Conner
 
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Grand Vol said:
How so?
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I guess because they look like ****ing idiots and they probably think in their heads that they look so badass. Reminds me of this:

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Though if you folks are looking for a better reason to be outraged, here's a decent one.

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/...ter-airline-reportedly-overbooked-flight.html

On Sunday, a United Airlines passenger was pulled from his plane seat and forcibly dragged off the aircraft — due to the airline overbooking the flight.

Several passengers captured the scene, which shows a man-- who has not been identified-- being forcibly removed from his seat and dragged down the aisle as others look on in apparent disbelief. Some clips appear to show that the man was left bleeding from the head after his face was smashed against an armrest during the scuffle.

On Monday, Chicago Police confirmed they were not involved in the incident and that the officers and security personnel seen in the now viral videos are with the Department of Aviation, a division of the U.S. Department of Transportation.
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