'26 TN S Craig Tutt

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jvols1999 said:
Who cares? If he weren’t instate we’d write him off as just another S on the board where we’ve already got KJ McClain, Luke Thompson and likely Jowell Combay.
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I have to respectfully disagree here. Tutt is a 4 star and definitely, at a glance, has a higher chance of being elite than any of these 3, esp Luke Thompson. So for once I have to side with the worrywarts and say that missing on him would be pretty unfortunate. Not going to doom over it, it is what it is, but I think discounting it like this is not the way to go.
 
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HeuperDrive said:
I have to respectfully disagree here. Tutt is a 4 star and definitely, at a glance, has a higher chance of being elite than any of these 3, esp Luke Thompson. So for once I have to side with the worrywarts and say that missing on him would be pretty unfortunate. Not going to doom over it, it is what it is, but I think discounting it like this is not the way to go.
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Hard to argue with 7 commits in two weeks. I havent looked at the data but it feels like we arent hitting on the upper crust blue chips, esp on offense. I like the 'high upside' guys we have, but do we have too many?

What about Tutt? Staff has been after him for a long, long time. Safety, DL, WR, and to a lesser extent RB recruiting continue to be less than impressive.

That said, class has a good base. Lets close on some of these upper tier prospects.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Hard to argue with 7 commits in two weeks. I havent looked at the data but it feels like we arent hitting on the upper crust blue chips, esp on offense. I like the 'high upside' guys we have, but do we have too many?

What about Tutt? Staff has been after him for a long, long time. Safety, DL, WR, and to a lesser extent RB recruiting continue to be less than impressive.

That said, class has a good base. Lets close on some of these upper tier prospects.
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5* QB Brandon #1 player in the country on 247
5* OT Osenda #19 player in the country on 247
5* WR King #29 player in the country on Rivals

And we still have 2 5* guys we have a solid shot with (Gray and Hiter) at guard and RB
 
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Vol8188 said:
5* QB Brandon #1 player in the country on 247
5* OT Osenda #19 player in the country on 247
5* WR King #29 player in the country on Rivals

And we still have 2 5* guys we have a solid shot with (Gray and Hitter) at guard and RB
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Land those two and ill run around and high five.
 
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HeuperDrive said:
I have to respectfully disagree here. Tutt is a 4 star and definitely, at a glance, has a higher chance of being elite than any of these 3, esp Luke Thompson. So for once I have to side with the worrywarts and say that missing on him would be pretty unfortunate. Not going to doom over it, it is what it is, but I think discounting it like this is not the way to go.
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Can’t get too worked up over initial acquisition in today’s retention world. I hope we sign guys that are truly invested in being a VOL if at all practical, not just current highest bidder. So really like to know their buy in depth.
 
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Vol8188 said:
5* QB Brandon #1 player in the country on 247
5* OT Osenda #19 player in the country on 247
5* WR King #29 player in the country on Rivals

And we still have 2 5* guys we have a solid shot with (Gray and Hitter) at guard and RB
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@Jackcrevol is consistently negative in thread after thread.
 
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benholt06 said:
Not really, he just doesn’t like Martinez or Pope.
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...and it's a program-defining defeat for any recruit that we lose, while all our commits are just okay. Also, all returning sophomores or redshirt freshman are busts because they didn't set the world on fire during their first year on campus. @Jackcrevol and several others have a well established agenda.
 
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Vol423 said:
...and it's a program-defining defeat for any recruit that we lose, while all our commits are just okay. Also, all returning sophomores or redshirt freshman are busts because they didn't set the world on fire during their first year on campus. @Jackcrevol and several others have a well established agenda.
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It's no more an agenda that the relentless sunshine is. People just look at things differently. I think it's ok to ask why we're not prioritizing the high ranked in-state talent at DB. If we can find a sweet spot somewhere between that and trying to run Shayne off for bringing info about Elarbee's recruiting some didn't like, that would be ideal.
 
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Vol423 said:
...and it's a program-defining defeat for any recruit that we lose, while all our commits are just okay. Also, all returning sophomores or redshirt freshman are busts because they didn't set the world on fire during their first year on campus. @Jackcrevol and several others have a well established agenda.
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Like most in that mold, they are redundantly redundant over and over and over and over again. Too many times not relevant to the threads, especially in the Player threads in THIS forum.
 
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jvols1999 said:
Who cares? If he weren’t instate we’d write him off as just another S on the board where we’ve already got KJ McClain, Luke Thompson and likely Jowell Combay.
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None of the guys you mentioned are in Tutt’s league. Tutt is very good, instate or not. I’d much rather have him than KJ McClain. Combay is the only one of those close to being as good as Tutt.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
This. They've been sub par since day 1.
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Pope I’m happy with recruiting but the play dropped off. WM has earned some leeway with the turnaround of that room I don’t think you’re giving him. But I don’t think you’re consistently negative about most recruits. If you knew that recruiting more developmental DBs was an overall staff strategy would it change your opinion on WM?
 
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NighthawkVol said:
None of the guys you mentioned are in Tutt’s league. Tutt is very good, instate or not. I’d much rather have him than KJ McClain. Combay is the only one of those close to being as good as Tutt.
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Respectfully, how do you (or I, or anyone else that’s not a professional scout/coach) know that?
 
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Martinez group was pretty good last year, weren’t they? Wonder how he suddenly got better.

Pope’s group were beat all to hell with injuries. Hopefully they can stay healthy this year. Few coaches look great playing their 2nd & 3rd team guys.
 
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jvols1999 said:
Respectfully, how do you (or I, or anyone else that’s not a professional scout/coach) know that?
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We don't, but your original response on the matter plainly stated that we shouldn't care about what Tutt does because we already have McClain, Thompson, and maybe Combay. That seems to imply that you think they're, at worst, suitable replacements who are as good.

So, I'd pose (which I already did in another post in response to your original comment on the matter) your same above question to you in regards to why we shouldn't worry about Tutt.
 
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benholt06 said:
Pope I’m happy with recruiting but the play dropped off. WM has earned some leeway with the turnaround of that room I don’t think you’re giving him. But I don’t think you’re consistently negative about most recruits. If you knew that recruiting more developmental DBs was an overall staff strategy would it change your opinion on WM?
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Not really. but if that's the case it's saving $. id like to see us get top 50 type skill players on offense. Let/ get em.
 
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jvols1999 said:
Respectfully, how do you (or I, or anyone else that’s not a professional scout/coach) know that?
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Watch film of them. If you think any of those guys (with the possible exception of Combay) are as good as Tutt, then I can’t help you.

And a professional coach or scout would agree.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Watch film of them. If you think any of those guys (with the possible exception of Combay) are as good as Tutt, then I can’t help you.

And a professional coach or scout would agree.
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But yet the scouts literally don’t have Combay rated very well either! So did they just not watch the same film that you are? I mean Combay is 46th, McClain is 54th and they are the exact same 88 score. And in position rankings there isn’t much difference between those 2 spots.
 
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