'22 TN DT Walter Nolen (Ole Miss)

[UTvol1fn]

Heupel is going to have to get more proven recruiters if he hopes to be successful in the SEC. CRG can't do everything and you aren't beating bama, uga, and Florida every year with 86s and 87s. Flame away but show someone who has done it consistently if you do.

Spot on. Everyone around here likes to mention that it's nice to see a staff actually coach up our players. Well, wouldn't it be nice if we had more talented players to coach up than some mid level SEC talent?

 

[BigALWiLson]

Spot on. Everyone around here likes to mention that it's nice to see a staff actually coach up our players. Well, wouldn't it be nice if we had more talented players to coach up than some mid level SEC talent?

This is true and I don't think anyone is saying it isn't. The fact is we have to be patient. Pruitt and former people did a lot of damage to the UT brand. New Coach doesn't repair everything. We need consistency. Kids are noticing UT again that doesn't mean it will pay off this year. Maybe not even next. The product on the field has to be consistent. Win. Get guys drafted. This is all part of it and add into that the NCAA cloud. This wasn't an easy job and it's not like anyone before him inherited here.

 

[Smokymtnbullet]

Marlon Wallls just said this ones not over and that A and M’s coaches pretty much sold him on scheme.That they would use him in a 3 technique but Tennessee and others shouldn’t give up.

 

[Dudley Smith]

Did you go to school at A&M? UT boosters are loaded and can afford any recruit they want (whether you want to believe or not). I went to A&M (but graduated from UT) and the Longhorns have the money and the power in TX.

From 2018. Appears them pockets been getting deeper.

And indeed, from 2014 through the 2016-17 season, the Texas A&M athletic department earned $260 million in contributions, nearly double what any other school made in that time. For reference, in those years, Texas had total athletic contributions of $123 million; Florida, which ranks second in the category, totaled contributions of $138 million. Texas A&M, meanwhile, allocated $119 million of its total contributions just to the football team.

College Football's Most Valuable Teams: Texas A&M Jumps To No. 1

I think this is missing the point a bit. Sure, the facilities upgrades and athletic department contributions matter, but it’s the money that is getting contributed off the books that is accounting for their great recruiting. A&M has a well-organized and funded bagman network that is getting up to the level of Bama, UGA, or Auburn. They produce a ton of graduates with middle class jobs and they are a cult that tithes to their football program to get players. Every insurance broker, middle manager, and car dealer from Corsicana to Port Arthur is passing the hat and filling up bags to get these players in there.

FWIW, Doug Matthews said on his show today that Vols' biggest problem in recruiting is that prospect-age kids do not see UTK as a "cool" (he said this word was a quote from young men that he's talked with recently) place to play football. It's not NIL, facilities, coaching, or any of the other stuff. Just not cool. Only way to make it cool is to get some bell cows to lead in the herd.

Nobody who has ever been to College Station and observed their traditions would ever describe it as “cool.”


They’re going there because they’re getting paid.

 

[freedom fighter]

The only that matters is the HIGHEST NIL, nothing else matters.

 

[jakez4ut]

Heupel is going to have to get more proven recruiters if he hopes to be successful in the SEC. CRG can't do everything and you aren't beating bama, uga, and Florida every year with 86s and 87s. Flame away but show someone who has done it consistently if you do.

So we have to beat those three, every year?

This debate is dumb.

We need better players. a lot of them.

Duh.

 

[bigl3327]

This is true and I don't think anyone is saying it isn't. The fact is we have to be patient. Pruitt and former people did a lot of damage to the UT brand. New Coach doesn't repair everything. We need consistency. Kids are noticing UT again that doesn't mean it will pay off this year. Maybe not even next. The product on the field has to be consistent. Win. Get guys drafted. This is all part of it and add into that the NCAA cloud. This wasn't an easy job and it's not like anyone before him inherited here.

The recruiting situation is multifaceted. We do have the obvious issues caused by Pruitt and company, but recruiting is built on relationships. Most of your top level recruits have been talking to staffs no less than 2 years. Coach RG and Kodi Burns were the only coaches we have that were already recruiting within the SEC blueprint. While many of the others were recruiting in Florida, they didn't have relationships with the top prospects being at UCF. Things will pick up in '23 and beyond if they just keep doing what they're doing. I don't know how you could ask much more of this staff at this point.

 

[CAVPUT]

No sour grapes here, but I'm not sweating him going somewhere else. He might be an outland winner at aTm, but I wasn't impressed with the film I saw of him. Best of luck to the kid.

 

[vol81]

What Matthews actually said is that Tennessee is now a cool place to pay according to his grandkids (Who apparently are in the demographic age group as prospective recruits ). He said that matters more than the NiL deals etc.
JH has changed that perception in the last two months. Now we just need to have relentless recruiting to be successful. We weren’t a cool place to play under Gump. We are now.

 

[top5vols]

He will be in the transfer portal two years from now.

 

[lilesrt]

I think this is missing the point a bit. Sure, the facilities upgrades and athletic department contributions matter, but it’s the money that is getting contributed off the books that is accounting for their great recruiting. A&M has a well-organized and funded bagman network that is getting up to the level of Bama, UGA, or Auburn. They produce a ton of graduates with middle class jobs and they are a cult that tithes to their football program to get players. Every insurance broker, middle manager, and car dealer from Corsicana to Port Arthur is passing the hat and filling up bags to get these players in there.


Nobody who has ever been to College Station and observed their traditions would ever describe it as “cool.”
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They’re going there because they’re getting paid.

Everyone of these kids should lose their man card. Are these guys in some sort of trance?

 

[Smokymtnbullet]

No sour grapes here, but I'm not sweating him going somewhere else. He might be an outland winner at aTm, but I wasn't impressed with the film I saw of him. Best of luck to the kid.

He’s good but we could probably get a 3 star w Rodney Garner coaching him and get the same results.

 

[Smokymtnbullet]

Spot on. Everyone around here likes to mention that it's nice to see a staff actually coach up our players. Well, wouldn't it be nice if we had more talented players to coach up than some mid level SEC talent?

It comes with depth and we are depleted but yes talent helps

 

[RAVOL]

The recruiting situation is multifaceted. We do have the obvious issues caused by Pruitt and company, but recruiting is built on relationships. Most of your top level recruits have been talking to staffs no less than 2 years. Coach RG and Kodi Burns were the only coaches we have that were already recruiting within the SEC blueprint. While many of the others were recruiting in Florida, they didn't have relationships with the top prospects being at UCF. Things will pick up in '23 and beyond if they just keep doing what they're doing. I don't know how you could ask much more of this staff at this point.

Common Sense. In CHRIST Alone

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

What Matthews actually said is that Tennessee is now a cool place to pay according to his grandkids (Who apparently are in the demographic age group as prospective recruits ). He said that matters more than the NiL deals etc.
JH has changed that perception in the last two months. Now we just need to have relentless recruiting to be successful. We weren’t a cool place to play under Gump. We are now.

*not. That’s what he said.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

I think this is missing the point a bit. Sure, the facilities upgrades and athletic department contributions matter, but it’s the money that is getting contributed off the books that is accounting for their great recruiting. A&M has a well-organized and funded bagman network that is getting up to the level of Bama, UGA, or Auburn. They produce a ton of graduates with middle class jobs and they are a cult that tithes to their football program to get players. Every insurance broker, middle manager, and car dealer from Corsicana to Port Arthur is passing the hat and filling up bags to get these players in there.


Nobody who has ever been to College Station and observed their traditions would ever describe it as “cool.”
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They’re going there because they’re getting paid.

Fake country boys in a nut shell

 

[freedom fighter]

What Matthews actually said is that Tennessee is now a cool place to pay according to his grandkids (Who apparently are in the demographic age group as prospective recruits ). He said that matters more than the NiL deals etc.
JH has changed that perception in the last two months. Now we just need to have relentless recruiting to be successful. We weren’t a cool place to play under Gump. We are now.

All that matters is the largest NIL.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

let's nuke this thread

Why? It’s gonna be good when Nolen flips to us.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

All that matters is the largest NIL.

Wrong.

 

[VolMack——————$]

All that matters is the largest NIL.

Looks that way

 

[VolMack——————$]

Why? It’s gonna be good when Nolen flips to us.

Hope your right but this ain’t old times I’m not to thrilled about this NIL crap ! Texas has a lot of money

 

[jpope9]

Why? It’s gonna be good when Nolen flips to us.

wish I had that confidence lol

 

[Jackcrevol]

Hope your right but this ain’t old times I’m not to thrilled about this NIL crap ! Texas A & M has a lot of money

 

[CABVOL]

All that matters is the largest NIL.

Seen you post this often. Your business that you own ponying up?

 

[VolzMan53]

Commitments are made to be broken....ain't putting a fork into it just yet !

Will Walter Nolen be at Neyland Stadium this Saturday?

His ppl say yes….we will see…we will see if TN elects to bring him in. Lots of ways this one could play out

-AP