Thoughts on Worley, etc.

[ALLVOL1220]

I don't post too often or start new threads to avoid you all's wrath . But I have some questions I would like to throw out.

First off, we all know Bray is going to be our quarterback for the near future. With that said, was it a wise decision to burn Worley's redshirt on a season in which we are 3-4 with our top wideout injured as well. I understand the experience will help but with Bray being our man, wouldn't the extra year he would have gained from the redshirt have been more beneficial? Anyways, I am excited to see what Worley has to offer but with the season going the way it is, I would like to know how the nation feels about the call to burn his redshirt.

My other question involves Teague. Teague did quite well at wide receiver under he who shall not be named . He has been a complete utter disappointment at CB. We have Lanier, Coleman, Moore, Evans, Gordon, and P Wag. Gordon can definitely hold that spot down and I have high hopes for Coleman as well. Not to mention, Dooley moved Anderson from the secondary to wide receiver. Why not keep Anderson where he was supposed to be and keep Teague where he was supposed to be? With Zach Rogers bringing nothing to the table at all, why in the world will Dooley not just go ahead and switch Teague back to WR so he can have an impact on this team. Teague is a spectacular athlete he just isn't a cornerback. To me it is a shame that we can't find a way to get him on the field in a position where he can contribute.

I apologize if both these subjects have already been talked about in length, if so I must have missed the threads. I am excited about our future and the direction the coaches have this team going. But the above questions baffle me, and any insights would be welcome. GO VOLS!!!!

 

[AndyMizunogolfer]

From what it looks like to me is that Dooley has never been very high on Simms. If you watched the games last year after almost every bad throw or INT Dooley looked as if he could blow a fuse. Then this year they send him in and hope his experience helps him and he does the same exact things he did last year. If you can count to 3 you have waited to long on throwing the ball unless you have some ridiculous ball fake skills. Dooley looks like he is so utterly pissed with the play from Simms that he was at his breaking point. I think it was bench him or punch him. Dooley has stressed all along when Simms is in the game he needs to just manage the game. We didn't need him to try to win the games he just needed not to lose them. They were giving him easy passes to hit and he was 3-4 yards off most times. Did anyone notice DaRick shaking his head after almost every pass? As far as Teague. They need to move him back to WR in ZR's spot.

 

[volroadwarrior]

You are spot on, OP. No flaming is necessary.

 

[volroadwarrior]

IMO, I don't believe burning a redshirt is an issue. I believe we will recruit more good QB prospects who can play as Worley finishes his UT career. Peterman and others are on their way.

 

[Big Orange 1]

Its now a 5 game season. We could wind up 8-4. Its not like he's burning Worley's redshirt to play UK and then start Bray next year.

 

[AndyMizunogolfer]

You are spot on, OP. No flaming is necessary.

If Worley comes in and we win out was it worth it? Not saying that will happen. I dont see why its pointless on burning the redshirt if they feel he has the tools to help the offense. I am sorry but Simms leading us to 41 yards and no first downs in the second half isn't going to cut it the rest of the year.

 

[Cartervol]

I have no thoughts on burning a redshirt. You play whoever gives you the best chance to win. Simms clearly isn't that guy. Somewhere daddy Simms smashes a coffee table or is throwiing darts at a picture of Desmond Howard.

 

[AllVol11717]

Why hasn't Nash Nance at seen any playing time? I don't really know what to expect from the kid but as of now he would have to TRY to be worse than Simms. I do like Worley getting his look but I would have loved to see some Nance.

 

[ALLVOL1220]

I agree with your assessment of Simms Andy. But as bad as Simms has played, I am not quite sure burning Worley's redshirt was the answer. It may have been better to just tough it out with Simms. However, it will all depend on how Worley does. If he plays well enough for us to upset South Carolina and then wins out and takes us to a bowl game, we will all probably think it was a good decision. However, the only game I see left on the schedule that Simms wouldn't have been able to manage is against South Carolina. So imo, the extra year would have been more beneficial for Worley because unless he is a key reason in a upset against South Carolina, I think Simms could have carried the load just fine in the rest of the other games.

Glad we are in agreement on Teague though. That is what baffles me the most. I just can't understand why in the world you would put a playmaker in a position he can't make plays from. Then when he proves to you he can't make plays in that position, you refuse to move him back to the position where he has a track record for making plays. All I'm saying is we do not have enough depth on this team to let a quality athlete like Teague rot on the bench.

 

[VOLfrombama]

I have no thoughts on burning a redshirt. You play whoever gives you the best chance to win. Simms clearly isn't that guy. Somewhere daddy Simms smashes a coffee table or is throwiing darts at a picture of Desmond Howard.

:lolabove:

Phil wasnt that good either. Everyone knows the Giants won the 86 super bowl with LT and a great D

 

[ALLVOL1220]

I have no thoughts on burning a redshirt. You play whoever gives you the best chance to win. Simms clearly isn't that guy. Somewhere daddy Simms smashes a coffee table or is throwiing darts at a picture of Desmond Howard.

I can see that. Its just we let Simms have LSU and BAMA. I didn't expect him to do anything against them anyways.

LOL. I can't wait to hear what Desmond has to say about this. Daddy Simms and Desmond will be fighting soon. Dana White needs to throw out a one fight contract and some cash.

 

[manfromtn]

How do we know Worley won't end up redshirting next year? He could also end up needing a medical redshirt, God forbid. We have major depth issues right now. Lets get this kid some experience so we won't have the same problem next year or even the year after if TB does leave early. Maybe we can RS Peterman. CDD is doing what he deems necessary for the overall health of the program for the long term, but he also wants to win a few along the way. Not sure Simms could give us as good of a chance at beating Vandy right now as Worley can.

 

[sdowell]

Why hasn't Nash Nance at seen any playing time? I don't really know what to expect from the kid but as of now he would have to TRY to be worse than Simms. I do like Worley getting his look but I would have loved to see some Nance.

will never see any p t unless it is mop up duty against a total crud. he's here only as a package deal with d rodgers.

 

[theutvolunteers]

Caring about the redshirt is pointless. Simms is awful. His career at Tennessee is over. Play Worley, get the kid some game experience and try to beat South Carolina.

 

[alwaysvol]

Why hasn't Nash Nance at seen any playing time? I don't really know what to expect from the kid but as of now he would have to TRY to be worse than Simms. I do like Worley getting his look but I would have loved to see some Nance.

the coaches see him everyday in practice, and that is why you won't see him in a game unless worley and simms both get injured.

 

[ALLVOL1220]

How do we know Worley won't end up redshirting next year? He could also end up needing a medical redshirt, God forbid. We have major depth issues right now. Lets get this kid some experience so we won't have the same problem next year or even the year after if TB does leave early. Maybe we can RS Peterman. CDD is doing what he deems necessary for the overall health of the program for the long term, but he also wants to win a few along the way. Not sure Simms could give us as good of a chance at beating Vandy right now as Worley can.

That is a possibility I didn't consider. He could always redshirt next season, if claiming a redshirt one year and burning it allows you to be eligible to do that. We will get other QB prospects and we are going in the right direction. Here's to hoping Worley comes in and manages the game well enough for us to go 8-4.

As far as the depth issues, I completely agree. That is why the Teague situation has me far more confused than the QB situation.

 

[KittenMittens]

Caring about the redshirt is pointless. Simms is awful. His career at Tennessee is over. Play Worley, get the kid some game experience and try to beat South Carolina.

This. We can't worry about his eligibility 2 years down the road. We still have a chance to make this a solid season. If Worley gives us the best chance to do that, then forget about the redshirt.

The last INT Simms threw to Rivera made me a believer that is was time for the switch as well. Yes, we were playing LSU and Bama, but he wasn't even making the gimme easy throws.

 

[Special Ed]

I tend to agree with Coach Dooley who said this about that, "I've never worried about redshirts, I just don't care. These guys, they don't worry about staying for four years anymore, so why should we worry about redshirts? They come out in three. When they stop coming out in three, we'll start redshirting them."

Besides that, giving Simms more experience isn't getting us anywhere.

 

[esarmstrong]

That is a possibility I didn't consider. He could always redshirt next season, if claiming a redshirt one year and burning it allows you to be eligible to do that. We will get other QB prospects and we are going in the right direction. Here's to hoping Worley comes in and manages the game well enough for us to go 8-4.

As far as the depth issues, I completely agree. That is why the Teague situation has me far more confused than the QB situation.

I'm guessing that this has more to do with not making a drastic change (offense to defense) in mid season than anything else (And BTW, I know he played wide receiver in '09 & '10).

Would not be shocked if he was back at receiver in 2012.

 

[jessee james]

We have freshmen coming and Bray may play 1 more year then... he needs to show what he's got or we need to get another Qb. Aren't we after Gunner? Agree 100% about Teague I felt he was on his way,but maybe coach wants a Cb that can catch.

 

[volmandu]

I don't post too often or start new threads to avoid you all's wrath . But I have some questions I would like to throw out.

First off, we all know Bray is going to be our quarterback for the near future. With that said, was it a wise decision to burn Worley's redshirt on a season in which we are 3-4 with our top wideout injured as well. I understand the experience will help but with Bray being our man, wouldn't the extra year he would have gained from the redshirt have been more beneficial? Anyways, I am excited to see what Worley has to offer but with the season going the way it is, I would like to know how the nation feels about the call to burn his redshirt.

Regarding your Worley question, there is a saying "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"..we need worley now..we need a quarterback who can throw the ball..about redshirt...there are too many ifs and buts..what if bray leaves after next year..? worley still has two years..What if new quarterbacks beat out Worley in competition..? Ne never might be our starter again..? what if Bray gets hurt next year..? we at that point have a QB with 4-5 SEC games behind him..

 

[Volgrad98]

Here's what I gathered from hearing Coach Dooley's interviews from post game and practice interviews. If the offense is at a 3rd and manageable(3rd&4,5,6) the quarterback has to be able to do a "pitch and catch". In other words, get it to the receivers that on the short routes and move the chains. Simms is absolutely horrible at that, whether he doesn't find them or is just inaccurate with his throw. That's one thing he's been consistent on so keeping him at QB is a guarantee that the offense will not be productive like it needs to be by moving the chains.

Now with Worley, we don't know what's to be expected, but I'm sure that he is more accurate than Simms. If the offense can ground it out to manageable 3rd down situations, like we've started to do, I believe Coach Dooley thinks that Worley gives Tennessee a better chance to covert in those situations. Obviously that's JMO, but we'll find out Saturday.