Thoughts on CKC

[lvocd]

Or Vic. He would be like a father figure for her

I’m not picturing either Vic or Mulkey being all that interested in directly helping to make Kim Caldwell a stronger, more competitive coach in the SEC.

Even Pat went outside her league to ask for help. It would be way too big an ask to go to a current league opponent to get their help in learning how to beat them.

 

[Volfan2012]

My thoughts is that she will be back next season if she finds a way to maintain most of this team that is eligible to come back. If were down to two freshmen coming in and two players coming back may need to use that April 1st pay out to completely change everything. Would probably need to be looking for a coach who not only had a great history, but also four or five players to follow them to Tennessee.
Will we have enough players to put five on the court come April 15th most interesting April for Tennessee Lady Vol basketball.

 

[Volfan2012]

I’m not picturing either Vic or Mulkey being all that interested in directly helping to make Kim Caldwell a stronger, more competitive coach in the SEC.

Even Pat went outside her league to ask for help. It would be way too big an ask to go to a current league opponent to get their help in learning how to beat them.

Beating the crap out of her is their only mission or anyone else they face in the SEC.

 

[brittannica]

I’m not picturing either Vic or Mulkey being all that interested in directly helping to make Kim Caldwell a stronger, more competitive coach in the SEC.

Even Pat went outside her league to ask for help. It would be way too big an ask to go to a current league opponent to get their help in learning how to beat them.

Oh, I agree though I wonder if Mulkey is close to retirement. She seems to be over it in some interviews. I picked Kim because she is one of the few coaches I have seen our Kim have an amiable discussion with. Mostly, she just needs to find someone accomplished, successful, and happy to mentor her.

 

[37620VOL]

Oh, I agree though I wonder if Mulkey is close to retirement. She seems to be over it in some interviews. I picked Kim because she is one of the few coaches I have seen our Kim have an amiable discussion with. Mostly, she just needs to find someone accomplished, successful, and happy to mentor her.

Mulkey doesn't strike me as someone who will ever retire if her health holds.

 

[Tnsuperman24]

The same amount of time it’ll take you to realize it’s the system CKC runs not the players.

Somewhat dissagree. Her system worked pretty good last year and there was alot of Hustle. This year there is no hustle, if u cant see on the court, players do matter. Turnovers, facial expressions. Body language, its all there. Players quit, not all it is evident but players laid down. We will be better next year. Put your pitchforks down. We havnt been that good Since Pat,so give it time, everybody wanted a UT Alum to coach, that wasnt good. Give Kim the Horse's that will hustle, then we will see.

 

[larjoranj]

Somewhat dissagree. Her system worked pretty good last year and there was alot of Hustle. This year there is no hustle, if u cant see on the court, players do matter. Turnovers, facial expressions. Body language, its all there. Players quit, not all it is evident but players laid down. We will be better next year. Put your pitchforks down. We havnt been that good Since Pat,so give it time, everybody wanted a UT Alum to coach, that wasnt good. Give Kim the Horse's that will hustle, then we will see.

Give her the horses that will hustle? Who will give them to her? Isn't it her job to round up the horses - and then make sure they hustle? And didn't she assemble most of the current horses? giddyup horsey

 

[JL1231]

Give her the horses that will hustle? Who will give them to her? Isn't it her job to round up the horses - and then make sure they hustle? And didn't she assemble most of the current horses? giddyup horsey

She has to do a better job in the portal. 2 of the 3 should have never been signed. She also has to do a better job on the fundamentals. Poor defense stopping the ball on fast breaks both years. That has to be corrected.

 

[RetroVol]

My thoughts is that she will be back next season if she finds a way to maintain most of this team that is eligible to come back. If were down to two freshmen coming in and two players coming back may need to use that April 1st pay out to completely change everything. Would probably need to be looking for a coach who not only had a great history, but also four or five players to follow them to Tennessee.
Will we have enough players to put five on the court come April 15th most interesting April for Tennessee Lady Vol basketball.

I've admitted I'm running short on hopium, and the only thing that will fill my tank is some Quality Results (QR). I've given up on any hope of seeing that on the floor with this team (and, no, not just the players, but the whole dynamic including players and coaches and, for that matter, players' advisors, which I suspect are a significant thing now). So, no QR on the floor, the next spot for QR is in personnel. I'm assuming Kim will be back, but will revisit should that prove incorrect. So, APRIL LOOMS LARGE. HOW MANY CAN SHE KEEP (INCLUDING CURRENT SIGNEES) AND WHO CAN SHE ADD? WHAT HAPPENS WITH ASSISTANTS? Until then, barring much better performance in the NCAAT than I expect, not much to talk about.

 

[Tnsuperman24]

Give her the horses that will hustle? Who will give them to her? Isn't it her job to round up the horses - and then make sure they hustle? And didn't she assemble most of the current horses? giddyup horsey

Ya she did, but you cant fix lazy. Look how many 5 stars was superstars according to people and they was at best a 3 star. So ya videos, others saying oh ya theyr awesome. Well why did they transfer in the first place. She got ponies not horses. Last years class was 10 times better. Maybe 2-3 upperclassmen and the freshmen hustle. Who since Pat has done good, who since Fulmer done good, but todays time, screw them they had time fire em! Thats all yall cry about on her. Vols have climbed out of the cellar in all sports so try to support or go apply for her job since you can do better

 

[Orange007]

listening to a vol podcast gave me a little insight last night. they (i can't rem which podcast at this point) seem to think there are several players who are problems and won't buy into her system and kim is refusing to change her system for a small group of players after it has worked for her at every level. and remember, it worked very well last year with a much less talented team. so, if that is indeed the case, i support CKC not allowing the players to change what she wants from them.

 

[volfan102455]

Im not saying Kim has done everything right and not made mistakes. But I can't believe that some are defending some of our players who quit on the floor and talk back to coaches and act like babies. Its disrespectful to Lady Vol Name Fanbase and the Game itself. To say because they don't like system or coach who they signed up to play for her and system as excuses while cashing checks. I can't believe some on here excuse this behavior. No doubt Kim is learning valuable lesson and next off season she will return to first off season in conditioning. To me lessening the conditioning this year before season hurt this team more than anything and some of the returning players saw weakness and behaved like such shame on them. Have a wonderful Saturday. In CHRIST Alone

Motivating players, coaching them to respect each other and the coaches - it part of Kim's job. If they are quitting and acting disrespectful it is her job to address it.

This type of activity is a clear indication that there are coaching issues.

 

[volfan102455]

listening to a vol podcast gave me a little insight last night. they (i can't rem which podcast at this point) seem to think there are several players who are problems and won't buy into her system and kim is refusing to change her system for a small group of players after it has worked for her at every level. and remember, it worked very well last year with a much less talented team. so, if that is indeed the case, i support CKC not allowing the players to change what she wants from them.

The players are right though - the system is not going to work against the top teams. I think the players were probably okay when the wins were stacking up but became frustrated when the bad losses started happening and they saw no changes to put them in the best position to win.

 

[volfan102455]

I've admitted I'm running short on hopium, and the only thing that will fill my tank is some Quality Results (QR). I've given up on any hope of seeing that on the floor with this team (and, no, not just the players, but the whole dynamic including players and coaches and, for that matter, players' advisors, which I suspect are a significant thing now). So, no QR on the floor, the next spot for QR is in personnel. I'm assuming Kim will be back, but will revisit should that prove incorrect. So, APRIL LOOMS LARGE. HOW MANY CAN SHE KEEP (INCLUDING CURRENT SIGNEES) AND WHO CAN SHE ADD? WHAT HAPPENS WITH ASSISTANTS? Until then, barring much better performance in the NCAAT than I expect, not much to talk about.

Highly likely some players and maybe even assistants will leave.

The one to watch is the incoming freshman. If she changes her mind, it is over in my opinion.

 

[Orange007]

The players are right though - the system is not going to work against the top teams. I think the players were probably okay when the wins were stacking up but became frustrated when the bad losses started happening and they saw no changes to put them in the best position to win.

See I tend to disagree here. They play well when they are actually playing hard and within the system. we were tied at UCONN after two quarters. so many other games where we played halfass and still stayed in the game for the most part. just imagine if we had a team of players who actually played hard in the system for 4 quarters...and could shoot the ball. to me, this is becoming more about finding enough Div 1 players to pull off this system than whether the system could work.

 

[RAVOL]

Motivating players, coaching them to respect each other and the coaches - it part of Kim's job. If they are quitting and acting disrespectful it is her job to address it.

This type of activity is a clear indication that there are coaching issues.

I believe she has gotten rotten apples unfortunately. Yes she chose them she tried coaching them and yes she made mistakes and can learn but when players do what some have done that is huge flaw by the player and trying to excuse such players will not fly. Last year's team gave this same coach everything they had, this year's team and especially Coop who to me has allowed few others to change her again doesn't fly.

 

[VolTenn25]

I also remember he asked her some variation of why she would get pregnant in her first year on the job he wasn't wrong tho.

He was joking with her at that time…

 

[Tnsuperman24]

listening to a vol podcast gave me a little insight last night. they (i can't rem which podcast at this point) seem to think there are several players who are problems and won't buy into her system and kim is refusing to change her system for a small group of players after it has worked for her at every level. and remember, it worked very well last year with a much less talented team. so, if that is indeed the case, i support CKC not allowing the players to change what she wants from them.

I believe she almost beat SC last year if im right on a less talented team with this system and got blown out by them by a lazy team this year. If she benched players and played all freshmen, cause they gave up or quit then everyone would bash her for that. I think you are correct i support CKC also.

 

[volfan102455]

See I tend to disagree here. They play well when they are actually playing hard and within the system. we were tied at UCONN after two quarters. so many other games where we played halfass and still stayed in the game for the most part. just imagine if we had a team of players who actually played hard in the system for 4 quarters...and could shoot the ball. to me, this is becoming more about finding enough Div 1 players to pull off this system than whether the system could work.

UCONN was more than likely the start of the frustration for the players. UCONN came out on fire in the 3rd quarter and the Tennessee coaching staff just sat there looking lost.

 

[volfan102455]

I believe she has gotten rotten apples unfortunately. Yes she chose them she tried coaching them and yes she made mistakes and can learn but when players do what some have done that is huge flaw by the player and trying to excuse such players will not fly. Last year's team gave this same coach everything they had, this year's team and especially Coop who to me has allowed few others to change her again doesn't fly.

Every coach, every team has rotten apples. Other coaches are better at dealing with them.

 

[Chipperbones]

It may be hard to buy into the system when you see that the top teams are getting lay-up after lay-up and not even sweating. But you are out there working your tail off. Now early on with the cupcakes it would be fun celebrating the 20 or more turnovers and all the fast breaks. What a feat—we won by 40 over (insert cupcake)-wow!

The SEC saw it last year and then this year and it isn’t new anymore. Just look at how Alabama adapted just this season. It beat them the first time and their players and coaches studied film and figured out how to beat it rather easily.

Hopefully in the first round we will get a team that does not have good ball handlers so we can wear them down and cause turnovers. And we will be rotating players so fast they won’t know who they are supposed to guard. They won’t handle our chaos. Then our system can be WOW again…until the next round.

 

[Orange007]

UCONN was more than likely the start of the frustration for the players. UCONN came out on fire in the 3rd quarter and the Tennessee coaching staff just sat there looking lost.

yeah but even if so, what about the other games against top opponents that we stayed close? if we didn't have one season to see what the system can do at times, i might be more in agreement. but, it is clear we have a team full of players (upperclassman mostly) who are not leaders or built for a change to their play.

 

[ShortyMac10]

 

[RAVOL]

Every coach, every team has rotten apples. Other coaches are better at dealing with them.

That is true to extent and yes Kim coddled some of them which will be a learning experience but again few of these players action is horrendous very shameful.

 

[1reVOLver]

UCONN was more than likely the start of the frustration for the players. UCONN came out on fire in the 3rd quarter and the Tennessee coaching staff just sat there looking lost.

If you listen to the postgame pressers for both coaches you will probably pick up on some significant differences in both style and substance. KC is critical of her team and defensive. GA talks about his coaching staff “making some adjustments” on defense.
That team leads with defense, converting turnovers into points.

So the opposing team adjusted, we kept doing what had worked well in the first half and…we got creamed.