This is how you know Dobbs is ready for the season

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Oh my goodness! Stop with the accuracy thing. Ugh. You guys are killing me! I have to say that I'd go into any game with Dobbs. Accuracy aside. The guy is smart. He's shown he can embarrass defenses with his legs and his running backs are remarkable. Accuracy? Really? He brings so much more than that. Frankly, that's the least of my worries as a fan. My greatest fear is that he'll get injured. If his wide receivers do their jobs and his line does its job, then he'll be fine. I'm excited to see him do his thing. This season is one of the most anticipated seasons we've had to look forward to as Vol fans. I say look enjoy it and above all...Go Vols!

Their problem with Josh is not accuracy. Its a cover. But you'll never see them admit that.

 

[k-town_king]

this seems like a good time to say ...

D.o.r.m.a.d.y

b.a.c.k.u.p.

 

[butchna]

b.a.c.k.u.p.

The backup...yes you're correct...followed by Sheriron and Jarrett.

 

[KBVol]

To reiterate, they had 5 in the arkie game alone.

That's great. Yet, all these people who routinely drop the "we had a lot/ton of dropped passes last season" in defense of Dobbs can never really to more than the 6 or so we were up to earlier. If these 5 dropped passes vs Arky were so egregious, so impactful to the defense of Josh, I quite certainly they'd have been brought up numerous times by now. Curiously, they haven't.

 

[musolfmj]

Their problem with Josh is not accuracy. Its a cover. But you'll never see them admit that.

For most of us our problem with Josh is not a problem at all.

Tremendous leader, smart young man, excellent decision-maker, awesome runner, pretty decent passer.

Our problem is with you and your over-the-top infatuation with the guy. You take it to such lengths that you become an easy target.

Lighten up man.

 

[Orange_Crush]

That's great. Yet, all these people who routinely drop the "we had a lot/ton of dropped passes last season" in defense of Dobbs can never really to more the 6 or so we were up to earlier. If these 5 dropped passes vs Arky were so egregious, so impactful to the defense of Josh, I quite certainly they'd have been brought up numerous times by now. Curiously, they haven't.

They were brought up once, which was enough to poke holes in your '6 for the season' imaginary numbers.

 

[KBVol]

Their problem with Josh is not accuracy. Its a cover. But you'll never see them admit that.

And there he goes again....."it's a black thing", right? Jesus Christ, just stop it. The kid is beloved in Knoxville and the only criticism he ever gets, and rightfully so, is his lack of consistent accuracy. If he solves that issue, he goes from being beloved to exalted.

 

[chargervol]

Facts don't seem to matter to these guys.

I made a thread a few weeks ago detailing how Dobbs was the best 3rd down passer in the SEC and one of the best in the country and it moved no one.

Most of the folks here have just dug in on the position that Josh is not a good passer and never will be eventhough there is contradictory evidence.

No, you just want people to act like he is better than reality. He's a good qb and given our o-line issues, I'm very glad we had him over a pocket passer.
You pick one odd stat like 3rd down between 6.2 and 6.4 yds (yes exaggeration just to mock you) but you do pick his one stat that is better! What is his total qbr?

I've seen him from 25th up to 16th in what has been called a down time for the college quarterback.
Oh, and when you push the 60% as somehow spectacular, keep this in mind - Dobbs is a scrambler.
Meaning when pocket passers are intentionally "throwing balls away", Dobbs has made an escape and actually trying to hit a receiver. Same number of throws and he is honestly trying for a receiver more often and still has slightly lower numbers.

Dobbs has the "it" factor and is one of my favorite qbs at UT..., well, of all time. But when you wake each morning and lick the JD poster above your bed, just remember, your infatuation doesn't suddenly equal a qbr jump of 20 positions.

 

[KBVol]

They were brought up once, which was enough to poke holes in your '6 for the season' imaginary numbers.

When? Not to me. Not once has anyone said "hey, we dropped 5 passes in the Arky game". Not once before now. But hey, perhaps you can keep perusing the post game articles from last year and regale us with the actual, "enormous" number that it really was.

 

[TAF]

Their problem with Josh is not accuracy. Its a cover. But you'll never see them admit that.

 

[08Vol]

I'll give you the "many throwaways due to pressure", especially early in the season. The "many drops" is wrong. I've asked a couple different posters to catalogue all the drops from last year and all I've got to date is one...... Malone's drop vs SCar. D4H gave me ball thrown high that should've caught vs BGSU and a ball he thought Malone might've caught vs OKla but it was tipped at the los....lol. I can think of a ball in the back of the endzone vs Georgia that was low and required Wolf to dive for (it was a good throw though), that he could've caught. Other than that, give me all the other drops throughout the season. Surely you can rattle off 10-15 off the top of your head since there were so many.

You forgot the most important drop of the season. Up 17-3, 1st drive of the 2nd half, Hurd and Smith get the ball to the 25. 2 plays later Dobbs hits Ellis in the hands, goes through his hands and bounces off his chest. Ellis was behind the D around the 20, would have been an easy score. Up 24-3 we don't lose that game.

 

[KBVol]

You forgot the most important drop of the season. Up 17-3, 1st drive of the 2nd half, Hurd and Smith get the ball to the 25. 2 plays later Dobbs hits Ellis in the hands, goes through his hands and bounces off his chest. Ellis was behind the D around the 20, would have been an easy score. Up 24-3 we don't lose that game.

Touché. I'm not saying there weren't drops or that there were only 6 all season. What I'm saying is people drop the line very cavalierly about how we dropped all these well-thrown balls all season, yet, when pressed to help me recall them, generally can't. No, our WR corps wasn't particularly good last year despite a lot of talent. But to try and write off the passing game as being poor because of these dropped passes is wrong to me. We've uncovered/recalled a handful thus far and that's about it.

 

[The Crimson Cried]

Dobbs has average accuracy. Overall he is a better quarterback than some of his throws would suggest.In fact, I think his level of play overall is a big reason why when we see those balls sail high we are in general confused by it. He sets the bar high for himself and is a very good qb... but that doesn't change the fact his accuracy could improve. I think if he can just bump it up from average to good (he doesn't even have to be great with it) then things are going to be a lot tougher for everyone on the 16 schedule. JMO

 

[chargervol]

Touché.

I have a theory on the inaccurate throws standing out so much to posters. And no, it's not racism like d.a. wants to push.
Think of the NBA. when someone misses a shot, you barely notice. When someone throws an airball everyone notices. It's not that Dobbs is off more than others, it's when he is off, the throws are borderline embarrassingly off. Airballs.

 

[fossilfiction]

Anything D4H posts seems to turn into a who's right debate. I am not sure if he is the greatest firestarter in Volnation history by effort or just naturally gifted at it.

 

[08Vol]

Touché. I'm not saying there weren't drops or that there were only 6 all season. What I'm saying is people drop the line very cavalierly about how we dropped all these well-thrown balls all season, yet, when pressed to help me recall them, generally can't. No, our WR corps wasn't particularly good last year despite a lot of talent. But to try and write off the passing game as being poor because of these dropped passes is wrong to me. We've uncovered/recalled a handful thus far and that's about it.

Looking back I don't think our WR core was as good as we thought it would be. I've touched on this before but these were some major issues.
1. Leading WR and senior leader kicked off the team early on.
2. Most physically gifted, our #2 WR, and a junior suffered a knee injury during fall practice and never recovered from it or a back injury from last season.
3. Our #3 WR wasn't allowed to be around the team all summer and part of fall while dealing with a sexual assault allegation. This clearly hurt his timing and conditioning.
4. All star recruit still recovering from an ACL misses most of fall camp due to the injury and a questionable test score.
5. Other all star recruit wastes practice time trying to be a QB.

We shouldn't be surprised by the drops and questionable play last fall looking at what all happened to this WR group. It can take months and years to build good chemistry between QB and WR and to get the playbook/routes down.

I think this season will look a lot better at WR. I think last year the group looked good on paper but the problems I listed threw everything off course. I think that is was coach Z was given another year

 

[chargervol]

Anything D4H posts seems to turn into a who's right debate. I am not sure if he is the greatest firestarter in Volnation history by effort or just naturally gifted at it.

He's just trolling.
If a subject starts to die down, he intentionally gives it a bump. He makes inflammatory comments like racism, just to incite. If he can't reignite one subject into a fight, he starts something else that he knows will.
I made a comment in a different thread about his flavor of the month. He has been slamming Jones in every thread - suddenly after that never being one of his tactics. Because he knows he will get some posters to engage.
If he were a good troll, these things would be more subtle. But like his eye for talent, his trolling is borderline ludicrous. But trolling none the less.

I need a Limp Bizkit gif of "trollin trollin trollin" instead of Rollin. Would be a much quicker response

 

[FlaVol08]

This seems like a good time to say ...

D.O.R.M.A.D.Y

Your forgot to add an N to his name...moron smh

 

[Volgrad98]

Dobbs doesn't have the girth to be a good QB.

 

[VolsnRavens]

Holy crap, after reading all of these posts, you'd think we went 1-11last year. Sheesh. We lost to two of the playoff teams, and had a great year. We had Dooley, Freakin Dooley for a couple of years. CBJ has really done a great job at putting us back on the map. Wow. Some of you would whine and ***** if we went 15-0. Not sure why I'm shocked. This seems to be the norm on Volnation off season. Here's to us posivols who wear the orange colored glasses. We're undefeated so far this year. Go Vols!!!

 

[k-town_king]

The backup...yes you're correct...followed by Sheriron and Jarrett.

Yes he will follow his backup year this year by backing up Jarrett next year and in the future.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

And there he goes again....."it's a black thing", right? Jesus Christ, just stop it. The kid is beloved in Knoxville and the only criticism he ever gets, and rightfully so, is his lack of consistent accuracy. If he solves that issue, he goes from being beloved to exalted.

You are still ignoring my post on his 3rd down passing stats which you always conveniently ignore.

Since you're so into stats, doesn't that prove Josh is consistently accurate on the most important passing down in football?

Or will you find a way to discount his SEC leading 3rd down passing stats?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

When? Not to me. Not once has anyone said "hey, we dropped 5 passes in the Arky game". Not once before now. But hey, perhaps you can keep perusing the post game articles from last year and regale us with the actual, "enormous" number that it really was.

So now you have a problem with stats? Cause no one has mentioned it before?

Funny I never heard this excuse before when stats that aide your argument are mentioned.

 

[Orange_Crush]

When? Not to me. Not once has anyone said "hey, we dropped 5 passes in the Arky game". Not once before now. But hey, perhaps you can keep perusing the post game articles from last year and regale us with the actual, "enormous" number that it really was.

I actually agree that Josh needs to improve on accuracy. But I also think you have selective amnesia per the problem with dropped passes, which would allow you to oversell his accury problems.

USCe follow-up:

"Miscellaneous repeat failures. Pick something that has irritated you about the 2015 Vols. Most likely, it happened again Saturday. Punting inside the opponents' 40? Jones' standard conservatism was back this week. Dropped passes? Josh Malone dropped a perfectly-thrown ball that would've put the Vols up seven in the fourth quarter."

The above should jog the average fan's memory about what an irritating problem dropped passes were last year--enough that the article author rightly listed it as 'repeat failure'. As in, it's been a problem all season and is still a problem.

Or the article describing how Clemson has taken our the moniker of wide receiver u. Talks about the problems with receivers last year. Mentions Dobbs' accuracy issues while also describing receiver drops and other receiver issues.

Tennessee Vols Should Surrender Wide Receiver U Title

After 2-3 start, Tennessee Vols must manage frustration | Times Free Press

You could also search the thread here on VN tiled 'drops' dated 11-7-15.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/248940-drops.html

Drops were a major problem last year. To deny that is either ignorance or dishonesty.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Sorry. Multi post.