This is brutal to watch

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Thorp32 said:
Can he make the throws that need to be made? Yes. Does he throw into double and triple coverage? No. Does he need alot of development? Yes. Has he received it? No. BM looks l8ke he should not be on the field. What do you want me to say. JG is all we got right now.
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He's a freaking RS Junior, the development ship has sailed for him. He's literally a black hole of wasted effort at this point.
 
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Thorp32 said:
What about the out throw with a defender in his chest. Your post and thread knocking this kid after everything he has been through at UT is childish and ignorant.
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To keep running this kid out there every game is an insult to the fans and the team. This guy can't play. He is a great guy and a good representative for the university. That should have nothing to do with evaluating his on field performance. He is the weakest link on the football team and they still keep trotting him out there.
 
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Thorp32 said:
Can he make the throws that need to be made? Yes. Does he throw into double and triple coverage? No. Does he need alot of development? Yes. Has he received it? No. BM looks l8ke he should not be on the field. What do you want me to say. JG is all we got right now.
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Do you know JG has only led the offense to more than 24 points against P5 teams just two times over his 2+ years of starting?

That's a liability.
 
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Thorp32 said:
No difference. JG has more courage and has taken more hits that would have knocked QB's out of the game. He was one helluva QB in High school and competed against the best in HS. He simply has not had anyone to develop him at UT. You really think he arrived at UT and lost hus skill set? Come on!
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i think he is shell shocked, only thing i can figure, your right he was a accomplished quarterback in high school, but what were seeing is someone who is moody. unsure of himself and cant make a decision and gets down on himself so bad he cant snap out of it, in short i think we have ruined him with multiple coordinators and a invisible offensive line, he'd be better off with a fresh start somewhere, he's in purgatory here
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Do you know JG has only led the offense to more than 24 points against P5 teams just two times over his 2+ years of starting?

That's a liability.
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Are you saying that the other two Freshman looked better than JG and that you want one of those kids to start against the DOGS? JG is all we got. You can thank your daddy Pruity for recruiting such great back up QBs
 
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Boone&Crockett said:
i think he is shell shocked, only thing i can figure, your right he was a accomplished quarterback in high school, but what were seeing is someone who is moody. unsure of himself and cant make a decision and gets down on himself so bad he cant snap out of it, in short i think we have ruined him with multiple coordinators and a invisible offensive line, he'd be better off with a fresh start somewhere, he's in purgatory here
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You are right. Well said.
 
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Thorp32 said:
Are you saying that the other two Freshman looked better than JG and that you want one of those kids to start against the DOGS? JG is all we got. You can thank your daddy Pruity for recruiting such great back up QBs
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Maurer led a drive to get our only points today. Sadly, Maurer and even Shrout haven't gotten live time vs BYU and GSU like that should have.

While I don't like the opponent, I don't mind starting Maurer vs Georgia because it will be a home game. Sure it doesn't matter, but it helps being at home.

It's time to play for the future and if Maurer has to take some lumps this year to get accustomed, so be it. It made a huge difference for Dobbs as he wound up facing these teams 3 times each or so.

JG ensures nothing to build on. Atleast with Maurer, his floor is JG's ceiling.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Maurer led a drive to get our only points today. Sadly, Maurer and even Shrout haven't gotten live time vs BYU and GSU like that should have.

While I don't like the opponent, I don't mind starting Maurer vs Georgia because it will be a home game. Sure it doesn't matter, but it helps being at home.

It's time to play for the future and if Maurer has to take some lumps this year to get accustomed, so be it. It made a huge difference for Dobbs as he wound up facing these teams 3 times each or so.

JG ensures nothing to build on. Atleast with Maurer, his floor is JG's ceiling.
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We aren't going to beat Georgia by starting Maurer, but playing Maurer for 4 quarters against Georgia might help us actually succeed against the likes of UAB, Mississippi State, and South Carolina or Vandy.

Starting JG does nothing for us long term, we know what the season outcome is if Pruitt doubles down on JG.
 
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Thorp32 said:
What about the out throw with a defender in his chest. Your post and thread knocking this kid after everything he has been through at UT is childish and ignorant.
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"After everything he has been through"? As our counselors and academic advisors told us in HS, only 1 in 10,000 of you will play in college and only 1 in 100K will play professionally.
Do you have any remote idea how privileged he actually is to have won the genetic lottery and had the opportunity to play for UT?
We are an institution like only a few other storied programs where walk-on players like Paul Bain work 2-jobs in the off-season to pay their way through school just for a chance to take the field.
There is absolutely no victim argument for JG.
Thorp32 said:
Can he make the throws that need to be made? Yes. Does he throw into double and triple coverage? No. Does he need alot of development? Yes. Has he received it? No. BM looks l8ke he should not be on the field. What do you want me to say. JG is all we got right now.
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No he cannot make the throws he needs to make.
Yes he throws into coverage.
Yes he still needs development.
Yes he has actually received more development than any QB on our active roster.
BM(and Shrout) looks like he needs more time on the field.
JG is not all we got.
Thorp32 said:
Are you saying that the other two Freshman looked better than JG and that you want one of those kids to start against the DOGS? JG is all we got. You can thank your daddy Pruity for recruiting such great back up QBs
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I'll say the team looked better with BM than JG and it's very reasonable to suggest BM' s play could easily surpass JG's soon.
I want one of them to start against the DOGS.


I'm sorry but JG is lost cost fallacy. Whether it's 100% JG's fault or not it is Pruitt & Chaney's responsibility to improve our QB play. By every measurable metric JG has regressed with improved play around him. Pruitt & Chaney would be remiss to the rest of the team to hinder their development by continuing to start a veteran with a limited ceiling.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
"After everything he has been through"? As our counselors and academic advisors told us in HS, only 1 in 10,000 of you will play in college and only 1 in 100K will play professionally.
Do you have any remote idea how privileged he actually is to have won the genetic lottery and had the opportunity to play for UT?
We are an institution like only a few other storied programs where walk-on players like Paul Bain work 2-jobs in the off-season to pay their way through school just for a chance to take the field.
There is absolutely no victim argument for JG.

No he cannot make the throws he needs to make.
Yes he throws into coverage.
Yes he still needs development.
Yes he has actually received more development than any QB on our active roster.
BM(and Shrout) looks like he needs more time on the field.
JG is not all we got.

I'll say the team looked better with BM than JG and it's very reasonable to suggest BM' s play could easily surpass JG's soon.
I want one of them to start against the DOGS.


I'm sorry but JG is lost cost fallacy. Whether it's 100% JG's fault or not it is Pruitt & Chaney's responsibility to improve our QB play. By every measurable metric JG has regressed with improved play around him. Pruitt & Chaney would be remiss to the rest of the team to hinder their development by continuing to start a veteran with a limited ceiling.
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Memphis, what do you think about hiring MIKE NORVELL as soon as the last sec. ticks of Memphis' last game?
 
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BeardedVol said:
We aren't going to beat Georgia by starting Maurer, but playing Maurer for 4 quarters against Georgia might help us actually succeed against the likes of UAB, Mississippi State, and South Carolina or Vandy.

Starting JG does nothing for us long term, we know what the season outcome is if Pruitt doubles down on JG.
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Very well stated!
 
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Thorp32 said:
Memphis, what do you think about hiring MIKE NORVELL as soon as the last sec. ticks of Memphis' last game?
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I think he's a big fish in a small pond but he might grow big enough to swim with the big boys in a Power5 conference.

I pray we don't have to replace Pruitt(stability & continuity - no I'm not convinced in him or a strong Pruitt believer) before the end of 2020.

Norvell could be a shooting star or he could be a Butch Jones type small ball spread offense ceiling.
Norvell was the perfect hire at the perfect time for Memphis. UofM almost always regress after losing a good coach and he is now the 3rd solid coach in a row Memphis has had. Which is unprecedented for Tiger High. As hurtful as our coaching debacles have been at UT, we're not a mid major like Memphis where local apathy let Norvell start out with little to no expectations placed on him. Norvell has recruited and developed well for Memphis but he's going after the guys BIG10 & SEC schools recruit over or only offer as PWO's. He hasn't recruited and developed higher ranked players with immense pressure placed on him from the get go against stiffer competition.

Norvell would have to actually win the AAC this year, beat an established team in the NewYears6 bowl, and then after graduating allot of talent finish close to the top next year if not win the AAC again for me too realistically view him as a viable UT candidate.
Even then I'd hope he isn't higher than 5th on our wish list.

He upset Houston a few years ago but hasn't beat UCF yet and usually let's at least one or two games slip a year against evenly matched opponents.

As much as we're presently frustrated with UT's performance another coach who's potential maxes out at 8/9 wins would be churned out after 4 years and we'd begin the great coaching search allover.....
 
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BeardedVol said:
We aren't going to beat Georgia by starting Maurer, but playing Maurer for 4 quarters against Georgia might help us actually succeed against the likes of UAB, Mississippi State, and South Carolina or Vandy.

Starting JG does nothing for us long term, we know what the season outcome is if Pruitt doubles down on JG.
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I’d had hope that JG would have the moment when it all came together. That ship has clearly sailed. If it was going to happen it would have.
It’s clearly time to move on to a new qb
 
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99gator said:
The funny thing is his best play a few plays later is a play few would make. He got nailed in the chest and completed a pass right on the money to Jennings
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He’s tougher than hell. I will always give him praise for that. He just doesn’t seem to have the necessary QB smarts.

Who knows if it would have been different if he had had good coaching and maybe an OL that would have given him time to develop??
 
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Thorp32 said:
Are you saying that the other two Freshman looked better than JG and that you want one of those kids to start against the DOGS? JG is all we got. You can thank your daddy Pruity for recruiting such great back up QBs
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Look here is the deal. Georgia will destroy us regardless of who we have at QB. So will. bama and MSU. So there is no reason not to play Maurer. He is a true FR and nobody can complain when he makes his mistakes. As a matter of fact, BM making mistakes is expected. But something has to change. As I have said, JG has the yips. He sees ghosts. I mean how many points has JG left on the field this year?

I have been a staunch JG supporter but the writing is on the wall. JG just doesnt have it. He is a terrible QB. He is a RS JR and should be able to play better than this. I am not saying he should be elite but he should be much better than he is.
 
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