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thistime said:
Things in the NCAA are about to change and not for the better. There has been a Bill brought up in the US Senate that will over ride all State Laws, Conference and Division rules that let college athletes profit from their name and image. This will totally change EVERYTHING in amateur college sports.

I understand that players have been taken advantage as far as companies and Universities alike having benefited financially by using these athletes for profit in not only ticket sales and advertising but video games and countless other avenues as well. They are the reason we watch the games and they are the reason that so many schools make so much money.

With that being said they are given a yearly scholarship and a free education if they chose to take advantage of it and that cost is anywhere from $30,000 to $80,000 + a year depending on the school. With that education it has been said that a degree will increase a individuals ability to earn a living by $1,000,000 over a lifetime so that alone is a type of payment.

If this Bill passes individual players or groups of players will be able make deals to benefit just like a pro basically . Nike, Under Armour, Adidas and any other company will be able to pay endorsements to players and potentially steer them to a school that uses their products. It happens now to some extent more so in basketball but it will be open season for all sports and be legal.

What then, will colleges be forced to pay them to play at their school ? Will they become employees of that school and will they be given benefits such a insurance and if they get hurt will they be able to draw workmen comp ? If it is a state school will there be a pay scale set forth by the states which will vary by state. Will private school have to make public how much they will pay ? Will the players get agents and if so will they be considered amateurs at that point ? Will colleges require them to pay their own way. Will this be the end of college football and college sports in general ?

I understand that being a college athlete at a top level requires a huge amount of commitment. There time is consumed with school and training and many come from backgrounds that does not allow then to receive spending money from home. Some do get money in round about ways now and it is widely known practice legal or not. For many a part time job is not practical but they can apply for certain student loans to get that money like many regular students are forced to do.

I think the sad part is if this passes NCAA sports as we know it is gone. All that will be left is the minor leagues and so many of those that are willing to go that route to chase a dream will miss out on the education that many will never be able to afford. That education is what many will need to get out of the situation they are trying to escape and that education is what most will wish they had when that dream never happens.
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Yep, the Democrats are about influencing their VOTER BASE; and thus every bit of their legislation is geared toward a VOTE; Instead of what is best for the Majority (Definition of a Democracy)
 
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Remy said:
Nothing builds team unity in college sports like a starting QB pulling in a $100K per year in sponsorship money based on his high school tape but he's the worst player on offense and his OL pulling in $5K per year.
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thistime said:
Things in the NCAA are about to change and not for the better. There has been a Bill brought up in the US Senate that will over ride all State Laws, Conference and Division rules that let college athletes profit from their name and image. This will totally change EVERYTHING in amateur college sports.

I understand that players have been taken advantage as far as companies and Universities alike having benefited financially by using these athletes for profit in not only ticket sales and advertising but video games and countless other avenues as well. They are the reason we watch the games and they are the reason that so many schools make so much money.

With that being said they are given a yearly scholarship and a free education if they chose to take advantage of it and that cost is anywhere from $30,000 to $80,000 + a year depending on the school. With that education it has been said that a degree will increase a individuals ability to earn a living by $1,000,000 over a lifetime so that alone is a type of payment.

If this Bill passes individual players or groups of players will be able make deals to benefit just like a pro basically . Nike, Under Armour, Adidas and any other company will be able to pay endorsements to players and potentially steer them to a school that uses their products. It happens now to some extent more so in basketball but it will be open season for all sports and be legal.

What then, will colleges be forced to pay them to play at their school ? Will they become employees of that school and will they be given benefits such a insurance and if they get hurt will they be able to draw workmen comp ? If it is a state school will there be a pay scale set forth by the states which will vary by state. Will private school have to make public how much they will pay ? Will the players get agents and if so will they be considered amateurs at that point ? Will colleges require them to pay their own way. Will this be the end of college football and college sports in general ?

I understand that being a college athlete at a top level requires a huge amount of commitment. There time is consumed with school and training and many come from backgrounds that does not allow then to receive spending money from home. Some do get money in round about ways now and it is widely known practice legal or not. For many a part time job is not practical but they can apply for certain student loans to get that money like many regular students are forced to do.

I think the sad part is if this passes NCAA sports as we know it is gone. All that will be left is the minor leagues and so many of those that are willing to go that route to chase a dream will miss out on the education that many will never be able to afford. That education is what many will need to get out of the situation they are trying to escape and that education is what most will wish they had when that dream never happens.
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Is this the Fall of the Roman Empire?
Unfortunately
 
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photovol said:
Is this the Fall of the Roman Empire?
Unfortunately
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I don't know about that but I think a lot of colleges will rethink how they offer sports . The bigger schools could just start their on league and get out of the NCAA all together which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The smaller or traditionally less successful schools may stay with the NCAA or drop sports all together. The upside is it may force the NFL and NBA to offer a minor league to kids out of high school.
 
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Good, it's absolutely ridiculous that these kids can't profit off their own names and likeness. Only group of 18-22 year olds that are being told "you're not allowed to make money". Now time for the grumpy old men to talk about how this ruins everything about sports.
 
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Rocky Top Raby said:
Good, it's absolutely ridiculous that these kids can't profit off their own names and likeness. Only group of 18-22 year olds that are being told "you're not allowed to make money". Now time for the grumpy old men to talk about how this ruins everything about sports.
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Rocky Top Raby said:
Good, it's absolutely ridiculous that these kids can't profit off their own names and likeness. Only group of 18-22 year olds that are being told "you're not allowed to make money". Now time for the grumpy old men to talk about how this ruins everything about sports.
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Have you priced the cost of college lately? Do you know why so many students graduate with $150,000 or more of DEBT? Guess how much debt scholarship athletes graduate with? Let me help you with that answer. $0.00. So tell us again Einstein how they are not profiting?
 
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Teeboy said:
Has any college sport gotten better over the past few years? Has any pro sport gotten better?

Unfortunately, it's all about money...players moving from team to team......no identity......seems like the natural progression, when big money is thrown in there. Look what happened to NASCAR because of the increased revenues in the sport. I know everyone loves money, and I get it.......but, it does tend to ruin sports. College basketball is a shell of itself, imo. When money takes over, the players become "the sport".....and then it becomes about their opinions and their politics and whatnot.....not about the game. Kinda like our society in general...it's all about the individual.....not the whole. Just my opinion though, Unfortunately, college football is the next to take the tumble.......Although, I hope I'm wrong.
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This is a pile of dung
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Teeboy said:
Has any college sport gotten better over the past few years? Has any pro sport gotten better?

Unfortunately, it's all about money...players moving from team to team......no identity......seems like the natural progression, when big money is thrown in there. Look what happened to NASCAR because of the increased revenues in the sport. I know everyone loves money, and I get it.......but, it does tend to ruin sports. College basketball is a shell of itself, imo. When money takes over, the players become "the sport".....and then it becomes about their opinions and their politics and whatnot.....not about the game. Kinda like our society in general...it's all about the individual.....not the whole. Just my opinion though, Unfortunately, college football is the next to take the tumble.......Although, I hope I'm wrong.
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The NBA is a niche sport in the US right now. Popularity has tanked. They are still making a lot of money because of corporate dollars and television contracts. The corporations are probably not getting the return they expected. That is why their star players are so interested in defending China.
 
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LargeOrange1 said:
Have you priced the cost of college lately? Do you know why so many students graduate with $150,000 or more of DEBT? Guess how much debt scholarship athletes graduate with? Let me help you with that answer. $0.00. So tell us again Einstein how they are not profiting?
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I’m not Einstein but if you end with $0.00, you didn’t make a profit. Any business owners out there that can confirm my math? This is not my specialty.
 
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NDRock said:
I’m not Einstein but if you end with $0.00, you didn’t make a profit. Any business owners out there that can confirm my math? This is not my specialty.
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There is a good online Reading Comprehension course you should take. I can post a link if you need it. 😜
 
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BreatheUT said:
The NBA is a niche sport in the US right now. Popularity has tanked. They are still making a lot of money because of corporate dollars and television contracts. The corporations are probably not getting the return they expected. That is why their star players are so interested in defending China.
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I’ve enjoyed being a Grizz fan in my lifetime. Been to many games and still consider myself a fan. The product the NBA puts out now is absolute garbage for the most part. The bowing to China and big corporations is a huge problem for the league, but also is an issue for everyone in this country.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Nothing socialist about it
It's actually capitalism
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Actually the government, lobbyists, and elites put into place to oversee this venture will profit the most. Government is already profiting big time from legal gambling, legal weed, cig tax. It’s like they’ve taken the mafias playbook.
 
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MSrivervol said:
I’ve enjoyed being a Grizz fan in my lifetime. Been to many games and still consider myself a fan. The product the NBA puts out now is absolute garbage for the most part. The bowing to China and big corporations is a huge problem for the league, but also is an issue for everyone in this country.
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Catering to LeBron will be their undoing.
 
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CINCYVOL said:
Actually the government, lobbyists, and elites put into place to oversee this venture will profit the most. Government is already profiting big time from legal gambling, legal weed, cig tax. It’s like they’ve taken the mafias playbook.
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The federal government is definitely not making a profit. Federally we lose a ton of money because people here just love giving everything away to everyone else.
 
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LargeOrange1 said:
And the sheeple (like you) say Baaaa Baaaaa Baaaaa. I'd stay out of Bama if I were you, Sheep.
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Such a well thought out, insightful response! Your wit and command of language are quite impressive for a 12 year old. Your parents must be very proud.
 
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LargeOrange1 said:
Have you priced the cost of college lately? Do you know why so many students graduate with $150,000 or more of DEBT? Guess how much debt scholarship athletes graduate with? Let me help you with that answer. $0.00. So tell us again Einstein how they are not profiting?
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If you’re going to come out of undergrad with $150,000 in debt, I think that says all you need to know about how smart someone is.
 
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It's LIKENESS control, not a SALARY. It can be implemented reasonably.

Let's take Tua.

While Tua is at Bama, let's say they sold 200,000 Tua jerseys and pics and whatnot with his name/image on it and made $10 profit on each one. That's $2 million Bama made from Tua's likeness and name. (Just making the numbers simple here.)

Let's say a Bama full ride athletic scholarship is worth $100,000, even $200,000

Bama made $1.8 million profit from Tua.

The idea is: Tua deserves to control the sale of his LIKENESS and NAME like any other person AND Bama deserves to be able to deduct the cost what they provided to Tua as well.

Tua should have AT LEAST been able to share some of the massive merch sales he generated with his jerseys, etc. That's been established law for a long time for celebrities. You CANNOT legally sell Tim McGraw T shirts and not give him a cut.

People WANT to say these are "grown men"..... well, grown men get paid when you profit from selling their name and likeness.
 
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