The Weightlifters Thread

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Spartacavolus said:
Yes, and damage the growth plates, where ligaments are attached to the end of bones. If there is an early injury there, it can become a defect. Larger muscles will stress the soft tissue too much in kids, and they can lose their elasticity, which helps prevent many injuries that would put me in the hospital.
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Broke my left femur right below the growth plate. I have a very minutely shorter left leg than right, but for some reason my left leg is strong than my right.
 
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nbakerld said:
I would say because we weed out the tall ones. Playing hoops doesn't make you taller, but we weed out the short guys.
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That's the spin the gymnastics profession puts on it. I'm not buying it. The elite gymnasts start at preschool age, and very often are unusually shorter than siblings and parents.
 
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bamacheats said:
That's the spin the gymnastics profession puts on it. I'm not buying it. The elite gymnasts start at preschool age, and very often are unusually shorter than siblings and parents.
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Do you have data to support that?

I would also guess that NBA players are often significantly taller than their siblings.

Not to mention, gymnasts are probably likely to fracture growth plates with the crazy crap they do. Not sure if you can compare it to muscle gained through proper lifting.
 
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Another thought, if fractured growth plates are most frequently caused by ACL tear-like injuries, wouldn't that mean you are unlikely to fracture growth plates by lifting?
 
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VOLatile said:
Broke my left femur right below the growth plate. I have a very minutely shorter left leg than right, but for some reason my left leg is strong than my right.
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How did the break happen? How old were you? Can you notice with the naked eye?
 
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Hey I'm thinking about trying some new protein and pre workout has anybody heard anything about or used muscle pharm products??
 
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I'm finally finished coaching for the year and I can get back in the gym 6 days a week.

jwill, i believe chavisut has used muscle pharm.
 
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nbakerld said:
How did the break happen? How old were you? Can you notice with the naked eye?
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I think I was 6 or 7. My friends and I were moving a combine tire that we had in the back yard. They left me alone to hold it up while they went inside. It fell on me and my mom found me lying under it, unconscious, a little bit later. The other kids were quite a bit older than me. Can't notice it, but I can feel it, especially when I run.
 
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nbakerld said:
So there are people who are convinced you should only do supersets for opposing muscle groups (bi's/tri's or chest/back), and others who are convinced it's only useful to do supersets on the same muscle (Example: EZ-curls w/ hammer curls).

I find value in both. What say ye?
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I'm sure there is value in both. I tend to do them the former way (different muscle groups). But my main objective in doing them is that it gives you a nice ancillary cardio workout.

Rather than strictly do weights or cardio, I try to make my cardio workout a weights workout (heavy bag, for example, is a nice shoulders workout). And weights workout a cardio workout (lunges crush my cardio and supersets at least do a little something).
 
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golfballs03 said:
Probably. It's easier to do when your shorter and have a dense center of mass
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Not sure what a "dense" COM is, lol. I'll assume you meant low, which I agree with.

bamacheats said:
That's the spin the gymnastics profession puts on it. I'm not buying it. The elite gymnasts start at preschool age, and very often are unusually shorter than siblings and parents.
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Okay... think about this.

You hear about all gymnasts being short and starting at a really young age, because that's the combination that it takes to be elite in that sport. The tall ones that start at a very young age eventually have to drop out because they can't compete with shorties. The short ones that start late just can't catch up.

I think this is a classic case of mixing up cause and effect.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Not sure what a "dense" COM is, lol. I'll assume you meant low, which I agree with.



Okay... think about this.

You hear about all gymnasts being short and starting at a really young age, because that's the combination that it takes to be elite in that sport. The tall ones that start at a very young age eventually have to drop out because they can't compete with shorties. The short ones that start late just can't catch up.

I think this is a classic case of mixing up cause and effect.
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gymnasts are freaks with a different density than other humans, IMO JMO TIFWIW
 
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chavisut said:
What's everybody's chest routine look like? I'm looking to switch some things up.
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I'll do 3 press motions that are as different as possible, and then 2 fly movements.

Example:

Smith Decline x 3
Incline DB x 2
Machine Flat Press x 2

Flat DB Flies x 2
Decline Cable Crosses x 2

I usually mix in some arms before or after. I know people don't like Decline Press or the Smith Machine, but I think they're nuts. Decline is beautiful. In my opinion you get basically the same result as flat press, but you're less likely to get injured. Dorian Yates hates flat press:

Decline Bench is the most under rated exercise i know of, it was my main mass builder, Bench press is a sh*tty exercise
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Keep in mind I'm lifting for shape, and care nothing for strength.
 
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nbakerld said:
I'll do 3 press motions that are as different as possible, and then 2 fly movements.

Example:

Smith Decline x 3
Incline DB x 2
Machine Flat Press x 2

Flat DB Flies x 2
Decline Cable Crosses x 2

I usually mix in some arms before or after. I know people don't like Decline Press or the Smith Machine, but I think they're nuts. Decline is beautiful. In my opinion you get basically the same result as flat press, but you're less likely to get injured. Dorian Yates hates flat press:



Keep in mind I'm lifting for shape, and care nothing for strength.
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I have ssen that quote before about Dorian. I like the Decline bench, no pain in the rotator cuff. Even on flat BB bench when I keep my elbows tucked in I still have pain. Good to see everyones' chest routine, will definitely try some new stuff.
 
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baker are you currently following HIT principles with your routine? I'm thinking of using Max-OT, which is a HIT centered program, pretty soon.
 
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chavisut said:
baker are you currently following HIT principles with your routine? I'm thinking of using Max-OT, which is a HIT centered program, pretty soon.
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Yes. I will always follow HIT principles. Even if I'm not doing HIT, I'll still focus on the negative motion, which is a principle of HIT.

Right now I'm kinda following Yates' routine with more of an emphasis on arms. I always try to change things up but HIT gives me the best result for my effort.
 
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