The verdict is in. Bruce over Phil when developing recruits.

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volfan2024

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Everyone knows Coach Fulmer normally pulls in a top ten recruitng class. Bruce had a good recruitng class as well. My point being, Bruce knows how to bring in good recruits and produce good teams. Coach Fulmer has yet to perfect that on a consistent basis.:whistling:
 
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utfantilidie said:
Everyone knows Coach Fulmer normally pulls in a top ten recruitng class. Bruce had a good recruitng class as well. My point being, Bruce knows how to bring in good recruits and produce good teams. Coach Fulmer has yet to perfect that on a consistent basis.:whistling:
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you're just now catching onto this? Really?
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Stirring the pot with absurd statements. :whistling:
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the fact that it's been debated endlessly proves it's not as absurd as you want to believe. Making a new thread about it as if it's a brand new theory is completely absurd though.
 
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Pearl has been here for 3 years and the guys in his first class aren't even juniors yet.

Plus a head basketball coach has infinite more to do with a player's development than a head football coach.

There is no way to compare the two.
 
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TENNFOLD1974 said:
This thread is a no-brainer.
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and if you had done your reading up on this board like so many of us have asked you to, you would see that all of us supposed "foolmerites" have complained about lack of player development under Fulmer for as long as I have been on the board.
 
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Pearl has a great feel for developing talent and putting players in the right positions to succeed. It's his biggest strength as a coach. That guy who scored the 32 points last night...remember how bad he was under Buzz, when he could even get into the game?

I knew we'd hired the right guy when Pearl made good players out of JaJuan, Dane Bradshaw and Stanley Asumnu in his first season. You have to give part of the credit to them for working hard to get better, but it was Pearl who figured out roles for all of them in which they could be successful.

The Fulmer comparison is apples and oranges, though. A head football coach has 100 players and isn't nearly as hands-on. Fulmer's problem, in my opinion, is that he's been poorly served by a lot of his assistant coaches in recent years. I'm hopeful that Clawson and Co. can help rectify that.
 
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Let's see here....

Phil has to help develop at least 11 players on offense and defense, which is a total of 22 that start. Then you have the bench.

Bruce has to help develop 17 players total and 5 starters.

This thread makes me want the FB season to start tomorrow.
 
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jsc1973 said:
Pearl has a great feel for developing talent and putting players in the right positions to succeed. It's his biggest strength as a coach. That guy who scored the 32 points last night...remember how bad he was under Buzz, when he could even get into the game?

I knew we'd hired the right guy when Pearl made good players out of JaJuan, Dane Bradshaw and Stanley Asumnu in his first season. You have to give part of the credit to them for working hard to get better, but it was Pearl who figured out roles for all of them in which they could be successful.

The Fulmer comparison is apples and oranges, though. A head football coach has 100 players and isn't nearly as hands-on. Fulmer's problem, in my opinion, is that he's been poorly served by a lot of his assistant coaches in recent years. I'm hopeful that Clawson and Co. can help rectify that.
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you beat me to it....regardless of the face time a head coach spends with players in either sport, it is obvious that Pearl is a master at optimizing his players abilities and overachieving, whereas Fulmer/staff have been atrocious. Underchievement is and has been his reputation, unfortunately.
 
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jsc1973 said:
Pearl has a great feel for developing talent and putting players in the right positions to succeed. It's his biggest strength as a coach. That guy who scored the 32 points last night...remember how bad he was under Buzz, when he could even get into the game?

I knew we'd hired the right guy when Pearl made good players out of JaJuan, Dane Bradshaw and Stanley Asumnu in his first season. You have to give part of the credit to them for working hard to get better, but it was Pearl who figured out roles for all of them in which they could be successful.

The Fulmer comparison is apples and oranges, though. A head football coach has 100 players and isn't nearly as hands-on. Fulmer's problem, in my opinion, is that he's been poorly served by a lot of his assistant coaches in recent years. I'm hopeful that Clawson and Co. can help rectify that.
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Stanley Asumnu, while a fine young man and a hard worker, was never remotely a good SEC level basketball player.
 
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two different sports. Its a whole lot easier to make sure 12 guys develop than 85. I'm not saying Fulmer has done a good job developing talent which IMO he has been very decent at but I dont see how the two can be comparable.
 
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volfanbill said:
and if you had done your reading up on this board like so many of us have asked you to, you would see that all of us supposed "foolmerites" have complained about lack of player development under Fulmer for as long as I have been on the board.
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Your still upset about that...dude get some THERAPY.:no:
 
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TENNFOLD1974 said:
Your still upset about that...dude get some THERAPY.:no:
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no.. today I'm upset that this threadstarter has brought this up again in a new thread like it's new to the board. you'll notice he will do this every day about something that has been discussed at length and then some. I just ripped you because you started one of the most pointless threads in my time here trying to say you can't express how you feel because you like making fun of someone's weight.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Stanley Asumnu, while a fine young man and a hard worker, was never remotely a good SEC level basketball player.
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Maybe not, but Pearl got useful minutes out of him, which is something Buzz could never do. Buzz couldn't get anything out of JaJuan Smith, who has proven good enough that someone will be paying him to play basketball a year from now.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Everyone knows Coach Fulmer normally pulls in a top ten recruitng class. Bruce had a good recruitng class as well. My point being, Bruce knows how to bring in good recruits and produce good teams. Coach Fulmer has yet to perfect that on a consistent basis.:whistling:
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pearl does a great job of developing his talent..just look what he's done so far...lol

JP Prince
8.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 48%, 45% ft, 29% 3pt
His last 9 games have been awesome, 5.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 41%, 32% ft, 33% 3pt
he's super lazy and plays no defense

B Williams
3 ppg, 4.1 rpg
*yawn*
he still looks like 100lbs of chewed bubble gum

Josh Tabb
1.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.5 apg
D-1 talent?? probably not

you boys will be shocked when you actually see and play a bench that goes 10 deep that's legit.. your last four; Tabb, Williams, Childress and Howell are barely D1 players.
 
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blue&grey said:
pearl does a great job of developing his talent..just look what he's done so far...lol

JP Prince
8.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 48%, 45% ft, 29% 3pt
His last 9 games have been awesome, 5.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 41%, 32% ft, 33% 3pt
he's super lazy and plays no defense

B Williams
3 ppg, 4.1 rpg
*yawn*
he still looks like 100lbs of chewed bubble gum

Josh Tabb
1.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.5 apg
D-1 talent?? probably not

you boys will be shocked when you actually see and play a bench that goes 10 deep that's legit.. your last four; Tabb, Williams, Childress and Howell are barely D1 players.
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Gee, how does he win games with so obvious lack of talent?:eek:k:
 
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billbattle said:
Gee, how does he win games with so obvious lack of talent?:eek:k:
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drilled by TX
lost to UK hahaha
beat UM by 2 at home -mississippi is fading fast and wont make the tournament
alabama is horrible
two point win at LSU, who didn't have a coach and had lost 10/11 of their last games...

$ec will be a 3 bid conference come tournament time-only 1 better than cusa and you're dropping conference games-
 
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blue&grey said:
pearl does a great job of developing his talent..just look what he's done so far...lol

JP Prince
8.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 48%, 45% ft, 29% 3pt
His last 9 games have been awesome, 5.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 41%, 32% ft, 33% 3pt
he's super lazy and plays no defense

B Williams
3 ppg, 4.1 rpg
*yawn*
he still looks like 100lbs of chewed bubble gum

Josh Tabb
1.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.5 apg
D-1 talent?? probably not

you boys will be shocked when you actually see and play a bench that goes 10 deep that's legit.. your last four; Tabb, Williams, Childress and Howell are barely D1 players.
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That is one of the funniest things I have read on this board in a long time. And, that sir, is saying a lot.
 
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jsc1973 said:
Maybe not, but Pearl got useful minutes out of him, which is something Buzz could never do. Buzz couldn't get anything out of JaJuan Smith, who has proven good enough that someone will be paying him to play basketball a year from now.
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Quit using J. Smith as such a primary example. Do I think Pearl has something to do with his development? Yes, certainly. But J. Smith was an invited walk-on freshman before Pearl got here. Pearl would not have gotten much out of him that season either.
 
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therickbol said:
That is one of the funniest things I have read on this board in a long time. And, that sir, is saying a lot.
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JTabb is coming along nicely... less time and less points-

SEASON MIN PTS REB AST
2006-2007 17.6 3.5 2.8 1.1
2007-2008 11.9 1.6 2.2 1.5
 
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