The Venezuela thread

What Do You Think About This?

  • Doesn't really make sense.

    Votes: 11 15.5%

  • Unnecessary.

    Votes: 23 32.4%

  • I love it! We can get more oil!

    Votes: 23 32.4%

  • I can see why it might happen, but not comfortable with it.

    Votes: 14 19.7%
  • Total voters
    71
#451
#451
Vol737 said:
It is, otherwise we would also do the exact same to Mexico and Scheinbaum considering the Mexican cartels operation and narco terrorism influence has likely been a far larger threat to the US. Hard to square this in some ways, but it’s “almost” exactly what we did wrt Noriega years ago…without the oil. See where this goes.
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Im not mad. Got a sub $21 basis in Haliburton and up 40% less than 3 months.....

Stevie Wonder could see where this was going 3 months ago...
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I’ve been consistent on this for years, not the last 12 hours, the issue isn’t whether Maduro is a dictator, it’s that the U.S. clearly does not operate on a principle of opposing dictatorships, because we’re perfectly fine with authoritarian leaders as long as they cooperate with us economically and strategically, “illegitimate dictator” only becomes an urgent problem when a government resists the U.S. influence, blocks access to resources, or aligns with rivals, which is why the label is selectively applied after the fact as moral cover. Saying two administrations pursued him doesn’t make it principled, it just shows continuity of the same power driven policy, not a sudden outbreak of concern for democracy. If this were really about opposing dictators, U.S. foreign policy would look radically different across the globe, and it doesn’t. You’re not talking to a democrat I hate them equally
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Well, you made some very valid points.

However economics is a real issue. Monetary issues. And Venezuela is a resource.

They also UPPED their operations within American borders during the Biden Administration. (part of the plan to eventually take them) and many 100,000s of Americans suffered from drugs as a result.

Also 60 countries never supported Maduro as the lawful Head of State past 2019.

As Jack Sparrow once said, “it’s about what a man CAN do and what man CANT do”
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Once again, none of that matters here. The USA under 2 separate Admins have pursued the arrest and capture of Maduro who is an illegitimate dictator of Venezuela.

I’m simply asking if you were this concerned and against his capture for the last 5 years or you just came to this position in the last 12 hours?
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That sounds like a Venezuela problem to me. Or if the situation's real bad, a UN problem.
 
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#455
LittleVol said:
TF are you talking about lol?

Iran and Venezuela are both anchors to South America and the Middle East. And we just bitched slapped both of them and China and Russia watched.

You don’t have to like Trump but don’t be an idiot….
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...and China, Russia and Iran all have a HEAVY presence in Venezuela.
 
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#458
EasternVol said:
That sounds like a Venezuela problem to me. Or if the situation's real bad, a UN problem.
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Venezuela is celebrating today. In regards to listening to the international community over this, they are mad, but the population in Venezuela is crying tears of joy. I trust folks on the ground in Venezuela more than some UN amabassador puppet crying
 
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#459
LittleVol said:
Why is it always “either or” with people?

Why can’t it be both? Or MORE even?
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Because the administration, which is full of lying shitbags, is telling you it's only about drugs. If they were serious about drugs, they'd be dong a hell of a lot more in the country to our direct southern border where the influence of drugs is way more impactful to our lives, politics, and more here in the US.

If it's about both, say it's about both. Nobody seriously thinks Venezuela is a major player in the drug trade. It's ********. And deep down, you know it.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I personally view the broad number of international community not recognizing Maduro as legitimate leader contradicting themselves as they say breaking sovereignty to arrest a “foreign leader”….

You can’t say he’s illegitimate but then take issue with us conducting an arrest warrant. Especially considering this was an operation that has been done before.
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Yes, you can, when it involves violating sovereignty to make the arrest.
 
#462
#462
ButchPlz said:
Because the administration, which is full of lying shitbags, is telling you it's only about drugs. If they were serious about drugs, they'd be dong a hell of a lot more in the country to our direct southern border where the influence of drugs is way more impactful to our lives, politics, and more here in the US.

If it's about both, say it's about both. Nobody seriously thinks Venezuela is a major player in the drug trade. It's ********. And deep down, you know it.
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It’s not about drugs. They know where every cartel head is and the financial institutions that launder for them. They could stop it overnight if it were about drugs.
 
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#465
Shockingly, CNN and their guest contributors aren’t very critical of this operation. North and South Poles must have had a big shift overnight.
 
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#466
EasternVol said:
Yes, you can, when it involves violating sovereignty to make the arrest.
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The people of Venezuela wanted this arrest to take place. Just because the illegitimate leader cosplaying as a duly elected president doesn’t want to invite this arrest, that’s not us violating sovereignty.

If we truly kidnapped a legitimate president leader of a sovereign state, we’d be seeing protests, riots, and military mobilization in that country. We aren’t…. It appears the people of Venezuela have made their position known whether we violated or not.

They know best.
 
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#468
Vol737 said:
Shockingly, CNN and their guest contributors aren’t very critical of this operation. North and South Poles must have had a big shift overnight.
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There's a distinction between recognizing how well this was executed versus whether it was a godf idea in the first place.
 
#470
#470
JMSqb11 said:
Venezuela is celebrating today. In regards to listening to the international community over this, they are mad, but the population in Venezuela is crying tears of joy. I trust folks on the ground in Venezuela more than some UN amabassador puppet crying
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Why end the magnanimous streak now? Plenty of people in the world are upset with their government, where's the next regime change?
 
#471
#471
BigOrangeMojo said:
A lot of people in the US believe Biden wasnt a legitimately elected President. He has some shady family connections. Let's say in 2021 Iran issued an arrest warrant for his arrest and somehow they were able to kidnap him.

How do we feel then?
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We'd still be bombing them.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I personally view the broad number of international community not recognizing Maduro as legitimate leader contradicting themselves as they say breaking sovereignty to arrest a “foreign leader”….

You can’t say he’s illegitimate but then take issue with us conducting an arrest warrant. Especially considering this was an operation that has been done before.
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We didn't issue an arrest warrant for him being the "illegitimate president" of Venezuela.
 
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#474
Vol737 said:
Was it “bring your kids to work day” there? Sound like there may have been a couple of casualties, but I haven’t heard a specific location.
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He literally said kids could be at that museum in the dead of night touring
 
#475
#475
BeardedVol said:
We didn't issue an arrest warrant for him being the "illegitimate president" of Venezuela.
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That’s doesn’t matter. We also didn’t carry out an arrest warrant and capture of a legitimate leader/president of a sovereign country either.

So once again, no first of its kind action has happened. No matter how much people want that to be the case.
 
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