The "Twitch"

#26
#26
Jaytrain5 said:
But, wait....Luc's strong as an ox....

And, if there's a correlation between fast twitch fibers and strength, then wouldn't that mean that Luc is fast twitch?
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You don't get ripped like that by exercising slow twitch.
 
#30
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kptvol said:
Fast twitch muscle fibers have more to do with strength than pretty much anything else in your body.[/QUOT


Luc has what they call "HEAD BUSTIN TWITCH" , which works out pretty good on a football field! lol!
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#33
#33
The word Sab is looking for is reaction time. Quick twitch muscles are related to strength and reaction quickness.
Most of the reaction quickness in the defense, is in the mental part and reading an offense.

I doubt any college coach is worried about who does or doesnt have enough twitch. Especially with Luc.
 
#35
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kptvol said:
Fast twitch muscle fibers have more to do with strength than pretty much anything else in your body.
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You can build strength without having to work the fast twitch muscles. That's what I was trying to say.

Fast-twitch muscles do not provide more force than slow-twitch muscles, they simply provide speed and are used for short bursts of power.
 
#36
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Sabanocchio said:
You can build strength without having to work the fast twitch muscles. That's what I was trying to say.

Fast-twitch muscles do not provide more force than slow-twitch muscles, they simply provide speed and are used for short bursts of power.
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If you want to raise your max bench by 50 pounds, you need to work fast-twitch fibers. If you want to increase the number of pushups you can do by from 50 to 100, you need to work slow-twich fibers. Fast twitch is way more important for brute strength that slow twitch. If you don't lift weights or do some pretty heavy work you aren't working fast twitch fibers. You can work slow twitch fibers by just walking around.
 
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#37
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kptvol said:
If you want to raise your max bench by 50 pounds, you need to work fast-twitch fibers. If you want to increase the number of pushups you can do by from 50 to 100, you need to work slow-twich fibers.
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That's irrelevant. Whether a guy is or isn't "fast twitch" refers to an above-average presence of fast twitch muscle fiber. My statement was 100% accurate. Just because a guy is "ripped" doesn't mean he's a fast twitch person. It just means he has worked those muscles the most. You can still be ripped and have an average slow to fast twitch ratio. The norm is about 60% fast twitch to 40% slow. Fast twitch guys, such as successful sprinters, will have a ratio of about 80 to 20. They aren't the biggest guys, but again, that is irrelevant.

You can continue arguing, but I promise you that is 100% accurate. What you are saying is true too, but that's not the statement I made.
 
#38
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Sabanocchio said:
That's irrelevant. Whether a guy is or isn't "fast twitch" refers to an above-average presence of fast twitch muscle fiber. My statement was 100% accurate. Just because a guy is "ripped" doesn't mean he's a fast twitch person. It just means he has worked those muscles the most. You can still be ripped and have an average slow to fast twitch ratio. The norm is about 60% fast twitch to 40% slow. Fast twitch guys, such as successful sprinters, will have a ratio of about 80 to 20. They aren't the biggest guys, but again, that is irrelevant.

You can continue arguing, but I promise you that is 100% accurate. What you are saying is true too, but that's not the statement I made.
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Which muscles would those be?
 
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#41
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kptvol said:
Well for one thing, there really isn't such a thing as a fast twitch muscle.
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Are you arguing semantics now? Fast twitch muscle fiber = fast twitch muscles in all of my statements. I'm surprised I have to explain that.
 
#42
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Sabanocchio said:
Are you arguing semantics now? Fast twitch muscle fiber = fast twitch muscles in all of my statements. I'm surprised I have to explain that.
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When you say something like this:

Sabanocchio said:
You can build strength without having to work the fast twitch muscles.
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You need to explain it. I thought perhaps you meant you could build strength in muscles that aren't predominately fast twitch. I guess that's not what you were saying. You're pretty much just wrong. Fast twitch muscle fibers are what you build if you want strength. That's just the way it is.
 
#45
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kptvol said:
When you say something like this:



You need to explain it. I thought perhaps you meant you could build strength in muscles that aren't predominately fast twitch. I guess that's not what you were saying. You're pretty much just wrong. Fast twitch muscle fibers are what you build if you want strength. That's just the way it is.
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No, KPT, it isn't.

This will be my last post on the subject.

Speed and quickness are not the same as strength and endurance and you won’t achieve great speed by only training for strength. Speed is not determined by just how strong your muscles are but also by how quickly they react and contract. And it is acknowledged that the speed and quickness of your muscles is accomplished by conditioning what are called your fast twitch muscles fibers.

Most training programs are not designed to or capable of conditioning your fast twitch muscles fibers for explosive speed and quickness. That's because strength and endurance programs require a lot of time and effort to complete (often 45 minutes or longer) and this amount of time and effort is not conducive to speed as much as it is to strength and endurance.
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#46
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Sabanocchio said:
The fast twitch muscle fiber in the locomotive muscles. Really, I'm done with the lesson. If you want to know more, look it up.
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So he's got plenty of fast twitch muscle fibers in the muscles that provide him locomotion, but he's slow and not fast twitch? What?
 
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Sabanocchio said:
No, KPT, it isn't.

This will be my last post on the subject.
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Fast twitch - strength
Slow twitch - endurance

It's basic physiology and your quoted source says nothing to dispute that.
 
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#49
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kptvol said:
Fast twitch - strength
Slow twitch - endurance

It's basic physiology which I've studied extensively.
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Fast twitch = explosiveness, speed
Slow twitch = strength and endurance

Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.
 
#50
#50
Sabanocchio said:
Fast twitch = explosiveness, speed
Slow twitch = strength and endurance

Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.
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You get fast by building strong muscles in your legs. You have a crapton of slow twitch fibers in your neck. That's because those muscles work all day to support the weight of your head. You have a lot more fast twitch muscles in an area like your pecs, muscles that don't get used that often and when they are used are likely to be lifting something heavy.
 
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