The Radical Islamic Terrorism Catch-All Thread

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n_huffhines said:
Who wouldn't factor this in?

The math is easy. We've let in tens of thousands of refugees each year for decades and I believe there are still 0 terrorists attacks by refugees. Apparently a few of them have committed non-terrorism related homicides.



The point is that there aren't any refugee terrorists. There are lots of refugees to meet and no terrorists to meet among them. All of these are bad analogies. Again, tens of thousands of refugees each year. 39,000 last year from the ME.

We're spending trillions of dollars worrying about something that is terribly unlikely.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/30/key-facts-about-refugees-to-the-u-s/
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Here in the US no one has been killed in a terrorist act by a refugee. Europe and their open arms has suffered quiet a bit from those they are helping.

have you thought that it is terribly unlikely because we spend trillions of dollars? and 39,000 against 330 million is a drop in the bucket, also that refugee number I don't think is even now a majority from the ME. could be wrong there.

also I very much doubt these percentages actually take specifics into account. that's the problem with stats they paint with such a broad brush. these percentages make no accounting for location of any individual, how could they. living in a big city I am much more likely to encounter them than someone in the countryside, I actually do know where a group of them live. good people for the most part, at least they take care of the property better than the last tenants.

our refugee process is more strict than Europe's, even when they were actually checking. so we are getting much "safer" candidates than they were. also there are plenty of other conditions to consider. The US already has a huge minority population so we are "used" to dealing with people not like us. Europe? not so much. even now its something less than 20% (I want to say 12%) of Europeans are minorities within their own country. not the case here. so even if we welcome fewer we are already accustomed to dealing with differences, giving them a better experience and therefore less likely to go all Aloha Snakbar on us. and because we take in fewer we can actually address needs as they come up, which is what Europe can't do.
 
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LouderVol said:
Here in the US no one has been killed in a terrorist act by a refugee. Europe and their open arms has suffered quiet a bit from those they are helping.

have you thought that it is terribly unlikely because we spend trillions of dollars? and 39,000 against 330 million is a drop in the bucket, also that refugee number I don't think is even now a majority from the ME. could be wrong there.
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In the past 15 years, the US has admitted 280k Muslim refugees.

There is no convincing evidence to support the idea that the trillions we have spent have made us any safer. Say it has made us 10x safer, there is still no way that it's worth the money.

What are the odds in Europe, since you feel inclined to speak to that?

Consider that we are not Europe. Republicans love to point this out when they talk about socialized medicine, but when it comes to foreign policy and immigration, suddenly all else is equal. I believe the last refugee attack in the UK was from somebody who was radicalized in the UK. Then there is also Khuram Butt who was a Pakistani refugee as a child and radicalized as an adult. His parents were regular folk. His Dad worked at a fruit stand or something. Why would someone from regular parents radicalize in the UK? IDK, but I do know that doesn't really happen here. There is only one instance I know of, and that's the Boston bombers, but they were born here, not refugees themselves.

also I very much doubt these percentages actually take specifics into account. that's the problem with stats they paint with such a broad brush. these percentages make no accounting for location of any individual, how could they. living in a big city I am much more likely to encounter them than someone in the countryside, I actually do know where a group of them live. good people for the most part, at least they take care of the property better than the last tenants.
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WTF, dude. Seriously? We're talking about the average American. What is the point of this?

our refugee process is more strict than Europe's, even when they were actually checking. so we are getting much "safer" candidates than they were. also there are plenty of other conditions to consider. The US already has a huge minority population so we are "used" to dealing with people not like us. Europe? not so much. even now its something less than 20% (I want to say 12%) of Europeans are minorities within their own country. not the case here. so even if we welcome fewer we are already accustomed to dealing with differences, giving them a better experience and therefore less likely to go all Aloha Snakbar on us. and because we take in fewer we can actually address needs as they come up, which is what Europe can't do.
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And? I see you agree that we are not Europe. :good!:
 
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davethevol said:
Especially when Khan is a terrorist sympathizer and defended terrorists in court.
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n_huffhines said:
In the past 15 years, the US has admitted 280k Muslim refugees.

There is no convincing evidence to support the idea that the trillions we have spent have made us any safer. Say it has made us 10x safer, there is still no way that it's worth the money.

What are the odds in Europe, since you feel inclined to speak to that?

Consider that we are not Europe. Republicans love to point this out when they talk about socialized medicine, but when it comes to foreign policy and immigration, suddenly all else is equal. I believe the last refugee attack in the UK was from somebody who was radicalized in the UK. Then there is also Khuram Butt who was a Pakistani refugee as a child and radicalized as an adult. His parents were regular folk. His Dad worked at a fruit stand or something. Why would someone from regular parents radicalize in the UK? IDK, but I do know that doesn't really happen here. There is only one instance I know of, and that's the Boston bombers, but they were born here, not refugees themselves.



WTF, dude. Seriously? We're talking about the average American. What is the point of this?



And? I see you agree that we are not Europe. :good!:
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I would say the evidence is Europe. or the ME in general. I am not one for not taking them. I am pretty happy with the situation. the trillions goes a lot farther than just the refugee terrorists. it covers pretty much all forms of terrorism and other fuqery. it also covers our military, first responders and a bunch of other agencies.

saying we have spent trillions on 280k is laughable.
 
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Perhaps not terror related but women will now be allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia.

In Memphis, in the early 1900's, there was a law that allowed women to drive only on Sundays, and an adult male had to walk/run in front of the vehicle waving a red flag.

Saudi Arabia announced on Tuesday that it would allow women to drive, ending a longstanding policy that has become a global symbol of the repression of women in the ultraconservative kingdom.

The change, which will take effect in June of next year, was announced on state television and in a simultaneous media event in Washington. The decision highlights the damage that the no-driving policy has done to the kingdom’s international reputation and its hopes for a public relations benefit from the reform.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-women-drive.html?mcubz=0
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Perhaps not terror related but women will now be allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia.

In Memphis, in the early 1900's, there was a law that allowed women to drive only on Sundays, and an adult male had to walk/run in front of the vehicle waving a red flag.

Saudi Arabia announced on Tuesday that it would allow women to drive, ending a longstanding policy that has become a global symbol of the repression of women in the ultraconservative kingdom.

The change, which will take effect in June of next year, was announced on state television and in a simultaneous media event in Washington. The decision highlights the damage that the no-driving policy has done to the kingdom’s international reputation and its hopes for a public relations benefit from the reform.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-women-drive.html?mcubz=0
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That's progress. Are they still whipping gay people? Technically they could stone them.

You should see an execution... right out in public.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Perhaps not terror related but women will now be allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia.

In Memphis, in the early 1900's, there was a law that allowed women to drive only on Sundays, and an adult male had to walk/run in front of the vehicle waving a red flag.

Saudi Arabia announced on Tuesday that it would allow women to drive, ending a longstanding policy that has become a global symbol of the repression of women in the ultraconservative kingdom.

The change, which will take effect in June of next year, was announced on state television and in a simultaneous media event in Washington. The decision highlights the damage that the no-driving policy has done to the kingdom’s international reputation and its hopes for a public relations benefit from the reform.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-women-drive.html?mcubz=0
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There is a muslim discussion thread, but this one definitely is more active
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That's progress. Are they still whipping gay people? Technically they could stone them.

You should see an execution... right out in public.
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I thought it was just stoning. And if you're a sheik, you're permitted to torture and toss off of roof tops.
 
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golfballs said:
I thought it was just stoning. And if you're a sheik, you're permitted to torture and toss off of roof tops.
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I thought they could get stoned, but usually the government doesn't do it... the people sometimes I believe take it into their own hands. idk

As far as heads and hands, those come off for certain offenses, in public... I do not wish people to see what I have seen.
 
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British jihadist Sally Jones has been killed in a US drone strike, according to a report.

The onetime punk rocker from Kent fled to Syria with her son in 2013.


But now - according to The Sun - she has been killed close to the Iraq-Syria border by an American aircraft.


Considered Britain's most-wanted woman, Jones - also known as the White Widow - was a recruiter for Islamic State.

The Sun quotes a Whitehall source as saying: 'The Americans zapped her trying to get away from Raqqa. Quite frankly, it's good riddance.'


Read more: British ISIS recruiter Sally Jones 'killed' by drone | Daily Mail Online
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Who incorporates getting their balls obliterated as part of their training?..... this is more proof they cannot be negotiated with..... they're too stupid
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
British jihadist Sally Jones has been killed in a US drone strike, according to a report.

The onetime punk rocker from Kent fled to Syria with her son in 2013.


But now - according to The Sun - she has been killed close to the Iraq-Syria border by an American aircraft.


Considered Britain's most-wanted woman, Jones - also known as the White Widow - was a recruiter for Islamic State.

The Sun quotes a Whitehall source as saying: 'The Americans zapped her trying to get away from Raqqa. Quite frankly, it's good riddance.'


Read more: British ISIS recruiter Sally Jones 'killed' by drone | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Awww that's a shame. Hopefully she took 3 hours to bleed out.
 
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