The QB Debate - post South Carolina (merged)

#26
#26
k-town_king said:
So he didn't have over 200 yards as a freshman vs LSU and UK? He wasnt 70% with no interceptions the first few weeks of the season?

I must be remembering wrong then. I remember games this year and last he played well in.
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You wanna go back to his high school stats too?!

Those stats, just like KC stats prior to this game, had zero meaning on the stats during the Bama game...obviously...

So, what are you trying to prove?!
 
#29
#29
cHiZzLeVOL said:
I am going to only say this to you because obviously you didn’t read the article. Chryst was 2.1 average time with the ball and had two touchdown passes. Chryst got the ball out in 1.5 and 1.7 secs and completed one of those two passes while being blitzed. Also did not take any sacks.

JG got the ball out in I believe 2.2 secs average while being blitzed and took a sack.

Those are big differences in getting the ball out. Those aren’t the same amount of time.
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Where are you getting these made up numbers about JG from? They only say what his average is. Not how long on the blitz plays. You may have read it but don't understand it. Or you are just making stuff up. 2.1 to 2.2
 
#40
#40
Chryst did play better, but he, as has been said, wasn't facing the same attack. And it sure seemed like the play calling for Chryst (maybe because of the more vanilla defense, but maybe just because of the big scoring discrepancy) was way more open than for Guarantano.
 
#43
#43
papatomany said:
Chryst did play better, but he, as has been said, wasn't facing the same attack. And it sure seemed like the play calling for Chryst (maybe because of the more vanilla defense, but maybe just because of the big scoring discrepancy) was way more open than for Guarantano.
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You mean like maybe he can handle a bigger play book
 
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#45
#45
Pacer92 said:
And what happened on those?!
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This is a case of he isn't reading and understanding the article. The sacks/ blitzes were addressed. He is struggling with reading comprehension. I listed the statistical values that I would like to see. They aren't given. He doesn't understand them.
 
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#47
#47
82_VOL_83 said:
I don't trust any statistical comparison to come out of a newspaper, you believe them if you want. No sacks is telling. You don't see the length of time the ball was held until JG was sacked, only that they worked it into the mean. I'd like to see a standard deviation here also. Or a range, or a min max. Just quoting a mean means, well it means nothing.
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So that would take every bit of 20 minutes to find and report back. If you really wanted that stat you could find it in a few minutes on YouTube with a timer. Stats are entirely more factual than an eyeball test or assumption.
 
#48
#48
Zues1 said:
You mean like maybe he can handle a bigger play book
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Nope. Saw him play at Stanford several times, and he can't. Was referring more to such things as: running a guy across the middle, which they didn't seem to do for Guarantano. Just saying what it looked like. The main problem with any assessment of it all is that we really don't know what the options are on any given play. Maybe Jarrett had those throws available but just decided not to attempt them. I don't think so, but it is a possibility.
 
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