The Problems with Trans-ideology

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NashVol11 said:
Please do type 7 more paragraphs about how we’re entering a doomsday era and endangering our poor children because of trans people, really helps drive home how non-transphobic you are lol
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If the Trans community is against genital mutilation of minors why do they have hissy fits when governments pass laws against it?
 
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The Montana lawmaker and boyfriend. If you remove the makeup do you just have two gay dudes with a serious mental issue?

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NashVol11 said:
1. "Reinforcing language" like that can be confusing and raise questions of interpretation (for example, what if the same legislators wrote another multi-part bill without reinforcing language? Does that mean they intentionally left it out and didn't intend to reinforce that thing?)
2. Even if people wanted to "use this to include pedophilia as a sexual orientation in the future," the legislative history and context around this bill ("Of course pedophilia is not a sexual orientation" as one of the reasons for making the change, for example) still exists and people in the future would still have to deal with that.

No one is coming for your kids IMO
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You still haven't linked the part in HF447. I've scanned thru the bill and did a word search. I've either missed it or it's not in there...
 
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InVOLuntary said:
It appears they both identify as she/her. Does that make them lesbians?
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Could be. So two dudes who think they're women are attracted to each other BECAUSE they think they look like women. Then if a trans is attracted to women... why are people allowing them in women's dressing rooms, showers, and bathrooms?
 
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CobbVol said:
Could be. So two dudes who think they're women are attracted to each other BECAUSE they think they look like women. Then if a trans is attracted to women... why are people allowing them in women's dressing rooms, showers, and bathrooms?
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“Inclusivity”!
 
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CobbVol said:
Could be. So two dudes who think they're women are attracted to each other BECAUSE they think they look like women. Then if a trans is attracted to women... why are people allowing them in women's dressing rooms, showers, and bathrooms?
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The harder you think about it, the less it makes sense. Primarily because the people trying to plunge all of us into this BS are incapable of thought (literal NPCs), scared of thought, and wildly inconsistent.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
I can honestly say I have never heard a single person say they are for pedophilia. I'm sure some clown, probably someone in custody or somewhere out in the fringes has said it but I've never personally heard it or seen it reported.

I beg to differ.

I don't think it is coming....ever.

Edit: It's really too sickening to even discuss it.
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I doubt support for “pedophilia” will become “mainstream”.

I could see the line on what constitutes “pedophilia” moving though.

Some are all about moving the “lines” in this country. Always have been.

The age to vote?
The age to own a gun?
The age to consent?
 
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Transabled: People 'choosing' to identify as 'handicapped'

"A troubling societal issue called “transableism” is attracting attention these days.

Transableism is a newer term for BIID, or “Body Integrity Identity Disorder,” in which a person actually “identifies” as handicapped.

BIID has been relabeled to transableism to align with today’s trans community, according to some.

The point of “changing the identifier” from a psychiatric condition (BIID) to an advocacy term (transableism) is to “harness the stunning cultural power of gender ideology” to the cause of allowing doctors to “treat” BIID patients by “amputating healthy limbs, snipping spinal cords or destroying eyesight,” according to Evolution News and Science Today (EN), which reports on and analyzes evolution, neuroscience, bioethics, intelligent design and other science-related issues.

Culturally, transableism is “the next abyss,” that site also notes.

Why?

Because “some of these persons mutilate themselves; others ask surgeons for an amputation or for the transection of their spinal cord,” that site adds of the shocking steps some are taking."

1) identify as "disabled"
2) quit getting up and going to work
3) apply for disability check
4) never have to work again while drawing $3000+ disability check every month thereby rest of life is a paid vacation made possible by sucker taxpayers
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Transabled: People 'choosing' to identify as 'handicapped'

"A troubling societal issue called “transableism” is attracting attention these days.

Transableism is a newer term for BIID, or “Body Integrity Identity Disorder,” in which a person actually “identifies” as handicapped.

BIID has been relabeled to transableism to align with today’s trans community, according to some.

The point of “changing the identifier” from a psychiatric condition (BIID) to an advocacy term (transableism) is to “harness the stunning cultural power of gender ideology” to the cause of allowing doctors to “treat” BIID patients by “amputating healthy limbs, snipping spinal cords or destroying eyesight,” according to Evolution News and Science Today (EN), which reports on and analyzes evolution, neuroscience, bioethics, intelligent design and other science-related issues.

Culturally, transableism is “the next abyss,” that site also notes.

Why?

Because “some of these persons mutilate themselves; others ask surgeons for an amputation or for the transection of their spinal cord,” that site adds of the shocking steps some are taking."

1) identify as "disabled"
2) quit getting up and going to work
3) apply for disability check
4) never have to work again while drawing $3000+ disability check every month thereby rest of life is a paid vacation made possible by sucker taxpayers
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It’s an actual phenomenon

Healthy limb amputation: ethical and legal aspects

Is it ever acceptable to amputate a healthy limb? | Nursing Times

A patient is asking to have a healthy leg amputated as he feels it is not part of his body. Should such requests ever be granted? And, if so, in what circumstances?
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Well that ^ sounds awfully familiar…
 
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And just for the record.

I fully support legal adults choosing to amputate their perfectly healthy arms and legs.

I DO NOT support, under any circumstances, minor children being allowed to amputate their perfectly healthy arms and legs - even with a note from their mother.

Disclaimer - Benefits provided by the State to individuals that have chosen to disable themselves is another discussion.
 
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85SugarVol said:
And just for the record.

I fully support legal adults choosing to amputate their perfectly healthy arms and legs.

I DO NOT support, under any circumstances, minor children being allowed to amputate their perfectly healthy arms and legs - even with a note from their mother.

Disclaimer - Benefits provided by the State to individuals that have chosen to disable themselves is another discussion.
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I would disagree with supporting the legal right of medical professionals to perform these procedures on adults.
 
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allvol123 said:
I would disagree with supporting the legal right of medical professionals to perform these procedures on adults.
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I can understand your position. We are probably going to simply disagree here.

Legal adults, in my view, should be afforded near unchecked latitude with regards to their own bodies. As long as they are not hurting others.
 
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I saw the points brought up of minor children not being able to vote or buy alcohol, but yet somehow they’re able to decide they need a life changing surgery that can’t be reversed. That should be thrown back in the faces of these sickos pushing for the transitioning of minors. Any person involved in transitioning minor children should be forced to spend a mandatory 10 year prison sentence.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I can understand your position. We are probably going to simply disagree here.

Legal adults, in my view, should be afforded near unchecked latitude with regards to their own bodies. As long as they are not hurting others.
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Then that legal adult can take a hacksaw, chainsaw, etc and remove their appendage.

The doctor on the other hand has some ethics and legal responsibilities as a medical professional that he needs to adhere to.
 
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allvol123 said:
Then that legal adult can take a hacksaw, chainsaw, etc and remove their appendage.

The doctor on the other hand has some ethics and legal responsibilities as a medical professional that he needs to adhere to.
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I get that. And figured you might go there.

“Do no harm”

It’s certainly tricky. Is a doctor that helps me remove part of my fully heathy, fully functional nose - for nothing but mere cosmetic desires doing harm?

I would say “no”, but where are we going to draw the line?
 
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85SugarVol said:
I get that. And figured you might go there.

“Do no harm”

It’s certainly tricky. Is a doctor that helps me remove part of my fully heathy, fully functional nose - for nothing but mere cosmetic desires doing harm?

I would say “no”, but where are we going to draw the line?
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It is tricky and I am not sure where to draw the line.

None of us are allowed to go to our doctor and demand something just because we want it, and always receive it. A good doctor will actually say no to certain requests.
 
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allvol123 said:
It is tricky and I am not sure where to draw the line.

None of us are allowed to go to our doctor and demand something just because we want it, and always receive it. A good doctor will actually say no to certain requests.
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Individual freedom. Agency over our own bodies. That’s where I lean.

The docs are in a tough spot. And I fully support them saying - “No, I cannot in good conscience assist you here. Find another doctor.”

The one thing I know for certain is I want no part of a world where Luther’s “experts” get to decide for us.
 
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