The onside kick

#51
#51
I like his stones. Personally, I didn't like the call at the time. Sure, I would have been jumping up and down if we got the ball. The Defense was holding Florida for the most part. The offense was turning the ball over and giving them good field position. They need to sit #9 the rest of the season. That was terrible what he did. Pruitt's fault for having him in there after admitting during the WVU game he wasn't hitting the right holes and bouncing stuff unnecessarily. I still think Pruitt is the guy, but the coaches and the players made several mistakes during this game.
 
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zydane47 said:
But ya know what the difference between Pope and those four other guys is? He tried to make a play, those four guys just stood by and watched the FL player make a play.
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Actually he blocks about as well as those guys did
 
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utvolpj said:
Actually he blocks about as well as those guys did
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we've changed subject here, but pope has not been good. his blocking is bad. he completely whiffed on several Saturday night, and i still can't believe he dove for the endzone from the 5.

everybody wants to be hero.

just do your freaking job.
 
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utvolpj said:
Actually he blocks about as well as those guys did
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But we're not talking about his blocking are we? We're talking about five players given a shot cause the coach trusted them. Only one gave it his best effort, the other four did not. I'm not going to be mad at the kid for giving his best effort on a play he normally doesn't see.
 
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jakez4ut said:
we've changed subject here, but pope has not been good. his blocking is bad. he completely whiffed on several Saturday night, and i still can't believe he dove for the endzone from the 5.

everybody wants to be hero.

just do your freaking job.
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Not that anybody stood out in a good way Sat but he had a rough game from several aspects.
 
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savannahfan said:
Part of your post reminds me of things a past coach said the team needed to learn. Hope that's not where you were trying to go. Along these lines, this and many teams do not look the part of role examples their schools want to place in public view. Many of these kids look like many homeless that never seem to find any cloths to wear.
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No connection to anyone else. Just stating that discipline "per" Pruitt is having to be instilled in these players. Doing all things the correct way creates habits. In life, career, or playing sports. When a play is practiced all week, and the time come to implement it, they need to show discipline to do as practiced. Right play call or not, do as taught.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I've seen a lot of posters bashing Pruitt for the onside kick call. I happen to think it was a perfect call at the perfect moment. The players didnt execute. Exhibit A:



As you can see, every player around the ball is watching the ball. Someone, not sure which one, is supposed to be blocking the 1 guy from UF around the ball. If that 1 guy does his job and blocks him instead of trying to go up and get the ball and be a hero, its UT ball and we probably even return that one a few yards, if not for a TD.

Great call, 1 player not doing what he was supposed to do ruined it. Players. Have. To. Execute.

There are many more instances of poor execution in this game.
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That was my favorite call of the game! Loved it. The goal line Defense at the end of the game in the middle of the field was a little bazaar. I like how he described it though, and like the strategy. I like Pruitt even more after this game/presser.
 
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#61
I like the call, it should have worked. We had the numbers, that is the best time to call a onsides when nobody is expecting it and you have the numbers. We just got unlucky but it wasn't a bad call, he was trying to get us some mojo right there. Our defense held there also. GBO!!!!!
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I've seen a lot of posters bashing Pruitt for the onside kick call. I happen to think it was a perfect call at the perfect moment. The players didnt execute. Exhibit A:



As you can see, every player around the ball is watching the ball. Someone, not sure which one, is supposed to be blocking the 1 guy from UF around the ball. If that 1 guy does his job and blocks him instead of trying to go up and get the ball and be a hero, its UT ball and we probably even return that one a few yards, if not for a TD.

Great call, 1 player not doing what he was supposed to do ruined it. Players. Have. To. Execute.

There are many more instances of poor execution in this game.
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I thought it was a very good decision, could’ve changed the momentum of the game at the moment. But of course, our 4 guys literally let their 1 guy “out-tough” them and come down with the ball. This one play/picture sums up this current team and what Pruitt and staff is up against.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Nope. All coaching. Players cannot be expected to execute without being coached up..
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Recovering a onsides kick isn't rocket science. The coaching was fine, the timing was perfect. The players didn't get it done, that's just the way it is. GBO!!!!!
 
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jakez4ut said:
meh.

i look at it like this, when you make a call like that...go for two, go for it on 4th down, try an on side kick...you're giving your team opportunities to build, regain, maintain, or gain confidence in themselves....of course, timing and current situation play a role in that. if it's the 4th qtr and you're down 2 scores, yeah, you might be a bit desperate. but where we were in that game Saturday night........that wasn't the case.

if players took it the way you interepret it, then that's a player issue, not a coach issue.
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To me it felt like he was trying anything to light a fire under the players. What I couldn't understand is why that fire wasn't there to start with. This is your most heated and hated rival. And I agree that it is a player issue.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Nope. All coaching. Players cannot be expected to execute without being coached up..
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You can spend all week working on one play, but if the players don't execute in the heat of the moment, it is not on the coaches. All it takes is a mental lapse by one player, which is apparently what happened on the onside kick.

It is going to be a long season.
 
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Anyone bashing this call just isn't smart. It was a great call. It was set up perfectly, players just didn't do the thing.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
Recovering a onsides kick isn't rocket science. The coaching was fine, the timing was perfect. The players didn't get it done, that's just the way it is. GBO!!!!!
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I was joking. People like to blame coaching for everything yet the players executing, or not executing the plays always get a pass.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
I didn't like the call it the time and still don't. Even if it works I think you're sending a message to the team that your desperate
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For me it sent a message to Florida. Florida’s offense wasn’t impressive up to that point. In my mind it sent a message to them.
 
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I love aggressive play calling. It is refreshing to see a coach go on 4th and short. I like the onside kick call. I just didn't like it at that point. Our defense had been playing well up to that point, and Florida hadn't sustained a drive of any length. Their 14 points were off of turnovers resulting in incredibly short fields. Kick it deep, and let the defense force a punt to flip the field. The defense held three and out anyway, but the field was flipped again pinning UT's offense deep.

Pruitt said today about the TE fumble/touchback that they want to play aggressive, but they also want to play smart. I think that also applies to this play call. If UT kicks it deep and forces a punt, they have the ball at midfield down 14-3 with all the momentum. A score of any kind would have set the place on fire. As it was, UT got the ball back after the safety down 23-3. Go onside at the opening kickoff before the turnovers, or after the team has weathered the rough start. Hind sight is 20/20. If it works, he's a genius. It didn't work. JMO.
 
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Anyone who hates the call is results oriented. It was a great call that was poorly executed on the field. UF was very vulnerable to the kick and it could have been a huge turning point in the game.

I love that our coach had the stones to make that call.
 
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Thought it was a great call. Should have been executed better. The kick was perfect but the players did not respond as they should have. Players or coaches to blame, who knows. I know as special team coach I would have reminded them before the kick to hit the Florida player first. That is coaching.
 
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goooooovols said:
Really good onside kick too but there is always a 50/50 chance you dont get it.... you can say the player didn't execute all you want but the chances are what they are.

Terribly early in the game to do this and really not necessary.... our defense was playing well when we weren't giving them a short field much better to kick there, hold and get the ball back instead of digging a deeper hole. The consequences were a direct result of the head coaches decision. Dont blame the players... if the players made the right plays all the time, whats the use of the coaches being around on game day, it's a give and take.
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Exactly this. The onside kick was simply a rookie head coach mistake. Pruitt will be making these all year long. I can live with these mistakes. This is small stuff compared to the disorganized state our team is in. Pruitt needs to give up the DC duties so he can focus on leading this team.
 
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goooooovols said:
Really good onside kick too but there is always a 50/50 chance you dont get it.... you can say the player didn't execute all you want but the chances are what they are.

Terribly early in the game to do this and really not necessary.... our defense was playing well when we weren't giving them a short field much better to kick there, hold and get the ball back instead of digging a deeper hole. The consequences were a direct result of the head coaches decision. Dont blame the players... if the players made the right plays all the time, whats the use of the coaches being around on game day, it's a give and take.
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I wouldn't call an unsuspecting 4 on 1 a 50/50 chance. I thought it was brilliant, but lack of focus from our players cost us an opportunity. I've seen lots of coaches pull this successfully, it just wasn't our night.

No idea if Pruitt is the right guy but he seems sharp and he takes calculated risks. It's better than 'No stones butch jones'. He was a mental midget and a terrible coach. He was soft and we have lots of soft players on this team.

#itsaprocess #giveittime #wewillknownextyear #justpruitt
 
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