The Official It Was A Good Call Thread

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I can think of like 2 minutes of zone... maybe.

We switched to the 1-3-1 with their full 2nd string in for just a few possessions, I think we got a stop, gave up a layup, then a 3.
 
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An official called into the sports animal this morning and said by rule the call should have been a block. Said what Jarnell did had no bearing on the call since the Michigan player never established position.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
Shhh, I want him to keep digging, it's amusing.
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Basketball Defense - Match-up Zone Defense -- Coach's Clipboard Mobile Playbook. this is what we played most the night. If you knew anything about defense you would know what a true man to man is...in a true man to man you follow one man around the whole time with no separation. Tennessee played what is known as a man zone, if they played a true man michigan players wouldn't have been wide open all around perrimmiter
 
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This thread title should include

From the maker of Jabar Gaffney caught the ball and,

Great ending in the Music City Bowl
 
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Cincy_Vol_Fan said:
Wow you are absolutely dumb...if letting up 11 three pointers is guarding the 3 then you have no idea about the game of basketball...5 of the 11 were wide open because we played zone all night guarding the paint. Should have been in man to man when there hitting the way they were...a good shooting team destroys zones. That is basic coaching.
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the guy you were quoting and I disagree on a lot, but you are confused here. We didn't play zone until we tried it for 2-3 possessions because they were lighting up our man. We were confused and unprepared for their picks, which was unexpected with the prep time of a week.
 
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Cincy_Vol_Fan said:
Basketball Defense - Match-up Zone Defense -- Coach's Clipboard Mobile Playbook. this is what we played most the night. If you knew anything about defense you would know what a true man to man is...in a true man to man you follow one man around the whole time with no separation. Tennessee played what is known as a man zone, if they played a true man michigan players wouldn't have been wide open all around perrimmiter
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We didn't nor have we ever played a matchup zone. If you want to know what that looks like watch Louisville. We played straight man for almost the entire night with some switching on screens.

Also the article you quoted mentions nothing about a match up zone, so I'm not sure why you quoted it if this was your point.
 
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Cincy_Vol_Fan said:
Basketball Defense - Match-up Zone Defense -- Coach's Clipboard Mobile Playbook. this is what we played most the night. If you knew anything about defense you would know what a true man to man is...in a true man to man you follow one man around the whole time with no separation. Tennessee played what is known as a man zone, if they played a true man michigan players wouldn't have been wide open all around perrimmiter
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This is just awesome. We played a match up zone for the first time all season against Michigan? A zone that had Maymon matched up with GRIII on the perimeter? Keep digging man, just keep at it, you'll reach the bottom at some point.
 
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k-town_king said:
Yes they had a couple of open looks. It wasn't due to them not knowing to defend the three like the poster said. We were not concentrating on the paint at expense of guarding the three point line like he said.
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his point about zone is nuts. We weren't guarding the paint at all. We were just unprepared for their pick game, clearouts and pick and roll. We had to know GR3 was going to get room to take Maymon, but acted like we were shocked and had no help anywhere close.
 
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Cincy_Vol_Fan said:
Basketball Defense - Match-up Zone Defense -- Coach's Clipboard Mobile Playbook. this is what we played most the night. If you knew anything about defense you would know what a true man to man is...in a true man to man you follow one man around the whole time with no separation. Tennessee played what is known as a man zone, if they played a true man michigan players wouldn't have been wide open all around perrimmiter
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You might want to stop now, you have like 5-6 people now telling you that you arw wrong.

Which should tell you.....you're wrong.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
his point about zone is nuts. We weren't guarding the paint at all. We were just unprepared for their pick game, clearouts and pick and roll. We had to know GR3 was going to get room to take Maymon, but acted like we were shocked and had no help anywhere close.
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You have to admit that Michigan is a difficult team to help against. The floor is wide open and the only guy you can really help off of is Morgan, but when you do, he ends up wide open under the basket because the weak side help is stuck at the 3 point line. They put 4 legit shooters on the floor, and they pass well. It's sort of pick your poison. That being said, I was surprised Martin went with Maymon for even the short time that he did. Once it was clear that Maymon couldn't punish GRIII in the post, it was over for that match up.
 
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Cincy_Vol_Fan said:
Stop complaining.....it was the right call. The defenders feet only have to be set if the offender is in the act of scoring or passing....stokes was trying to bully his way in between 2 defenders. In this case, the defenders only have to be in a guarding position, which they were....great game but don't blame the refs.....bad play call in my opinion
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You really want to say Jarnell was trying to bully his way after all of the contact he has taken this year with no calls? Never seen a player get treated so differently from the offensive end to the defensive end. Officials just think he can get pounded because he is so big.
 
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VolGee4 said:
You really want to say Jarnell was trying to bully his way after all of the contact he has taken this year with no calls? Never seen a player get treated so differently from the offensive end to the defensive end. Officials just think he can get pounded because he is so big.
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Yes in this particular situation he did...there was no reason to try and split the defenders when Jordan was at top of key
 
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Cincy_Vol_Fan said:
Thats also the same 5 or 6 people who are saying the charge call cost us the game forgetting about the other 39:51 of the game.
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So you are sticking with you match up zone statement? Also, is U.T. scores on that possession, they win the game and the other 39:51 is irrelevant.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
the guy you were quoting and I disagree on a lot, but you are confused here. We didn't play zone until we tried it for 2-3 possessions because they were lighting up our man. We were confused and unprepared for their picks, which was unexpected with the prep time of a week.
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I didn't watch Michigan play much this year, but Gottlieb said afterward that they threw in a few different wrinkles with their picks. I don't know, but he insinuated it was something that they didn't do all year.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
You have to admit that Michigan is a difficult team to help against. The floor is wide open and the only guy you can really help off of is Morgan, but when you do, he ends up wide open under the basket because the weak side help is stuck at the 3 point line. They put 4 legit shooters on the floor, and they pass well. It's sort of pick your poison. That being said, I was surprised Martin went with Maymon for even the short time that he did. Once it was clear that Maymon couldn't punish GRIII in the post, it was over for that match up.
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very difficult, but you have to commit to shutting one or two guys down and forcing the others to beat you. You have to figure out a way to not let everybody go off. Michigan did lose this year, so some teams figured it out a little.
Very good team though with some players with great instinct. How many times you see a guy get caught, throw it off the board, grab it and kick it to a 3 pt shooter in one motion. Our players were looking around like wtf just happened.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I didn't watch Michigan play much this year, but Gottlieb said afterward that they threw in a few different wrinkles with their picks. I don't know, but he insinuated it was something that they didn't do all year.
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that makes sense because we looked like most of their offense was new
 
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BilboTN said:
He was falling backwards before Stokes ever made contact. That was the picture perfect definition of a flop.
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This is my official first post here and this is what I came here to say.

Also, as an sec fan and an Arkansas fan, I can't be more proud of the way you guys played and rep'd the conference. It made me sick that it slipped away that way.

Home and home next year will be fun.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
very difficult, but you have to commit to shutting one or two guys down and forcing the others to beat you. You have to figure out a way to not let everybody go off. Michigan did lose this year, so some teams figured it out a little.
Very good team though with some players with great instinct. How many times you see a guy get caught, throw it off the board, grab it and kick it to a 3 pt shooter in one motion. Our players were looking around like wtf just happened.
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When Michigan loses, they generally don't shoot the ball well, or GRIII doesn't show up. Neither of those things happened last night. U.T. tried to commit to shutting down Stauskas, but all he needs is half a step, and Richardson kept getting knocked off on screens. Stokes really struggled to react fast enough to contest on a few occasions, and once he started making the quick show, they started hitting Morgan. All credit to Michigan in the first half, that was about as well as I've seen a team play on the offensive end. In the second half, U.T. adjusted well and made it much harder. Stauskas was really limited by the half time adjustments. Robinson came up big though, his 5 point run really hurt.
 
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