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#3,253
#3,253
Well...then congratulations to the team on a season tied (with 1974 and 1981 - not including the strike-shortened season) for the second-worst in franchise history...I guess
 
#3,257
#3,257
OldandStillaVol said:
Good. Cleaning everyone out. Now we get to see who comes in. Gruden?
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Fisher has let it be known he wants to coach here or with Tampa Bay. He said he wants to either coach Peyton/Luck or both. I don't believe a big time coach would have come with the Polians in place. I would rather have Cowher than Gruden.
 
#3,258
#3,258
volfanjustin said:
Fisher has let it be known he wants to coach here or with Tampa Bay. He said he wants to either coach Peyton/Luck or both. I don't believe a big time coach would have come with the Polians in place. I would rather have Cowher than Gruden.
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I'd rather have Cowher too but haven't seen or heard any interest on his part. I figure Gruden would love to have control and a franchise qb to work with.
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#3,259
#3,259
OldandStillaVol said:
I'd rather have Cowher too but haven't seen or heard any interest on his part. I figure Gruden would love to have control and a franchise qb to work with.
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I haven't seen anything either. Listening to Gruden on MNF, I think he was begging someone to hire him as coach again. His brother would be a great choice also. I would not mind Fisher if he had little to no influence on the offense
 
#3,261
#3,261
Sounds like to me clearing house with coaches and players. Will the next GM like to start his tenure with Luck? It would be cheaper to sign Peyton i believe.
 
#3,262
#3,262
Manvol said:
Sounds like to me clearing house with coaches and players. Will the next GM like to start his tenure with Luck? It would be cheaper to sign Peyton i believe.
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You do realize if Peyton is on roster on March 8 (not 100% on the date but close) he is due $28 million?
 
#3,263
#3,263
Polian is Ringo, and Manning is the other 3 Beatles. It seems clear now that without Peyton, Polian's career at Indianapolis would have had a far different result.
 
#3,266
#3,266
For prospective NFL head coaches and GM's (and their agents), this is a great situation to propose a package deal to Jim Irsay (X = GM and Y = head coach). Although Irsay didn't say it, the chance that Caldwell continues as head coach with a new GM is zero.
 
#3,267
#3,267
OldandStillaVol said:
For prospective NFL head coaches and GM's (and their agents), this is a great situation to propose a package deal to Jim Irsay (X = GM and Y = head coach). Although Irsay didn't say it, the chance that Caldwell continues as head coach with a new GM is zero.
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I agree 100% on both issues. John Clayton was on Mike and Mike this morning and he said the only way Cowher comes back is if he gets three things:

A great QB situation, check
$7 mil a year, ?
He wants to be GM and HC, ?
 
#3,269
#3,269
volfanjustin said:
I agree 100% on both issues. John Clayton was on Mike and Mike this morning and he said the only way Cowher comes back is if he gets three things:

A great QB situation, check
$7 mil a year, ?
He wants to be GM and HC, ?
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What head coaches in the NFL are also GM's? Timewise, I think it would be difficult to do both. If I were Cowher, rather than being the GM and having to deal with all of the salary negotiations and scouting, I'd just propose someone I knew I could work with to handle those things.
 
#3,270
#3,270
volfanjustin said:
Luck won't have to worry about some idiot kicker missing a chip shot next season, he will have a Hall of Famer.
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Luck won't have a dominant running game or a great offensive line. Can't blame your kicker when you go backwards in OT.
 
#3,272
#3,272
OldandStillaVol said:
What head coaches in the NFL are also GM's? Timewise, I think it would be difficult to do both. If I were Cowher, rather than being the GM and having to deal with all of the salary negotiations and scouting, I'd just propose someone I knew I could work with to handle those things.
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I am not really sure. It probably would be hard to do but that's what he wants. I don't see that happening for the Colts but who knows. I no longer think we get Fisher, I am sure he will be gone very soon.
 
#3,273
#3,273
nbakerld said:
That's why I qualified it by saying "Polian's Indianapolis career".
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I'm not sure how it can be qualified. The roster would've been constructed differently. Who's to say he couldn't have gone to another Super Bowl or two with a different roster?

I certainly do not buy this critique. It's like saying, "Well, what would've happened if the Americans didn't nuke the Japanese in WWII?"
 
#3,275
#3,275
HSVol said:
I'm not sure how it can be qualified. The roster would've been constructed differently. Who's to say he couldn't have gone to another Super Bowl or two with a different roster?

I certainly do not buy this critique. It's like saying, "Well, what would've happened if the Americans didn't nuke the Japanese in WWII?"
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So he would've decided to draft good interior linemen if he had a different QB?
 
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