The Official Dan Mullen Thread

#802
#802
Dan Mullen biggest cause of concern is that he is not a good HC.

Great Offensive mind , can't put the whole picture together.

Dan Mullen is like a poor man's Mike Leach.

Because Mike Leach can win vs the top 25 here and there with less talent. Neither put a priority on recruiting.
 
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UTK said:
Come on, We'd at least never lose to Vandy or Kentucky or South Carolina. Its an improvement.
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A year ago he was 0-2 vs sc

Kentucky, 7-0
Vanderbilt, 2-0
Tennessee, 1-0
Missouri, 1-0
Ole Miss, 4-3
Arkansas, 4-3
Georgia, 1-1
Florida, 1-1
Auburn, 3-4
Texas A&M, 1-3
LSU, 1-6
South Carolina, 0-2
Alabama, 0-7
 
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#804
vols1707 said:
Dan Mullen biggest cause of concern is that he is not a good HC.

Great Offensive mind , can't put the whole picture together.

Dan Mullen is like a poor man's Mike Leach.

Because Mike Leach can win vs the top 25 here and there with less talent. Neither put a priority on recruiting.
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The question is he an average head coach or is he James Franklin at Vandy.

I am not sure why you think that Dan Mullen does not put a priority on recruiting. Is that because of his current players?
 
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EweTVol said:
A year ago he was 0-2 vs sc

Kentucky, 7-0
Vanderbilt, 2-0
Tennessee, 1-0
Missouri, 1-0
Ole Miss, 4-3
Arkansas, 4-3
Georgia, 1-1
Florida, 1-1
Auburn, 3-4
Texas A&M, 1-3
LSU, 1-6
South Carolina, 0-2
Alabama, 0-7
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This is why I don't want to take a risk on Mullen.

Our rivals in the east don't want him for these reasons.

Winners win. Don't need excuses why they don't win.
Mullen is Butch2.0
 
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vols1707 said:
This is why I don't want to take a risk on Mullen.

Our rivals in the east don't want him for these reasons.

Winners win. Don't need excuses why they don't win.
Mullen is Butch2.0
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Is Franklin a winner or loser?

I am not saying that Mullen is a Franklin.

I am just challenging your statement.

We have seen coaches have different levels of success in different situations.
 
#807
#807
If you hire Mullen
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#809
#809
EweTVol said:
A year ago he was 0-2 vs sc

Kentucky, 7-0
Vanderbilt, 2-0
Tennessee, 1-0
Missouri, 1-0
Ole Miss, 4-3
Arkansas, 4-3
Georgia, 1-1
Florida, 1-1
Auburn, 3-4
Texas A&M, 1-3
LSU, 1-6
South Carolina, 0-2
Alabama, 0-7
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0-2 vs USC during their three year run with Spurrier where they won 30 plus games. It’s not like he was losing to Lou Holtz
 
#811
#811
Hubbard said:
Cute to let the gif speak for you.

However, what is your reasoning?
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My reasoning is Mullen is a "safe" hire, not a "go for it" hire.

We need a big gun. No 9mm, even though it gets the job done. We need a .45 or .50 this time. Stop playing around and swing the bat and go for it.
 
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EweTVol said:
A year ago he was 0-2 vs sc

Kentucky, 7-0
Vanderbilt, 2-0
Tennessee, 1-0
Missouri, 1-0
Ole Miss, 4-3
Arkansas, 4-3
Georgia, 1-1
Florida, 1-1
Auburn, 3-4
Texas A&M, 1-3
LSU, 1-6
South Carolina, 0-2
Alabama, 0-7
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These aren't even accurate records. He's got at least 2 wins against A&M. One of those Auburn wins was against a #2 Auburn as well. He has a lot of quality in his record.

But even granting the premise of those records- he did it at Mississippi State! He actually made a program from Starkville relevant. That is truly impressive. Imagine what he could do in Knoxville?
 
#813
#813
superdave1984 said:
My reasoning is Mullen is a "safe" hire, not a "go for it" hire.

We need a big gun. No 9mm, even though it gets the job done. We need a .45 or .50 this time. Stop playing around and swing the bat and go for it.
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We need an iterative hire. We need a good offensive mind that will give us conditioning to not be plagued by injuries. If Butch could have done both of those things, we'd have quite a few more wins over the last few years.

Mullen can absolutely iterate for us. He's exactly what we need and easily among the top 3 names fielded in the last 2 years of coaching searches.
 
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#814
superdave1984 said:
My reasoning is Mullen is a "safe" hire, not a "go for it" hire.

We need a big gun. No 9mm, even though it gets the job done. We need a .45 or .50 this time. Stop playing around and swing the bat and go for it.
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You are not alone in wanting to ensure we get a coach that takes us back to competing for the SEC Championship. I don't know why you would even think otherwise.

What we do not need is a "sexy" hire. We need a coach with recent experience as a HC in a major college program that shows qualities that indicate he can be successful at UT. For many here, Mullen is on that list.

They may or may not be others on the search list, but, it is not Gruden. Gruden is a marketing hire more than a coaching hire.
 
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If you want someone who finds diamonds in the rough, develops them and maxes out their potential, Mullen is the guy. Dak was a 3 star, Alex Smith and Fitzgerald were both 2 stars. NOBODY wanted fitzgerald and now the kid has almost 7000 total yards and 72 touchdowns with a couple games left in his junior year.
 
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#816
Unimane said:
Gruden's record in the NFL is better than Mullen's SEC record, plus he's actually won something. Mullen had one really good season where he had an NFL Pro Bowler at QB and still fell apart at the end of season. Meanwhile, were it not for getting screwed by the tuck rule, Gruden takes two different franchises to the Super Bowl. Mullen is a significant drop off from Gruden. The time off from coaching means jack. The guy who the stadium was named after in Knoxville took time off, too, and didn't miss a beat. A good coach is a good coach.
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Dan Mullen did all of this at Mississippi State. Not at Auburn, Not at LSU, Not at Bama, Not at A&M, but at Mississippi State. In the west, it's the poorest athletic department. Facilities and revenue. It's not even the most popular school in the state! It's the third poorest in the whole sec behind vandy and mizzou. In 9 seasons, He's had a winning record, pushing for another 10 win season, 5 bowl victories. Now imagine what he could do at tennessee. Bigger wallet, a more sellable brand for recruits, an easier side of the conference.

Gruden has never made one recruiting trip. He's coached grown talented men who make money. He's an x's and o's guy. I personally like gruden. His overall record in the nfl is 15 wins over .500. The time for Gruden is over though. I would've been estatic if he was named HC instead of Dooley or Butch. But now I want someone who's a winner at the P5 level. Which Mullen is.
 
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Ertel said:
If you want someone who finds diamonds in the rough, develops them and maxes out their potential, Mullen is the guy. Dak was a 3 star, Alex Smith and Fitzgerald were both 2 stars. NOBODY wanted fitzgerald and now the kid has almost 7000 total yards and 72 touchdowns with a couple games left in his junior year.
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Exactly, I live in Savannah which is the county right next to Bryan County where Nick Fitzgerald played (Richmond Hill). I didn't know anything of the kid and I coach high school sports.
 
#818
#818
I have a hard time spending $6+ million on a guy with a losing record last year (in his 8th year). With losses to South Alabama and Kentucky... and a near loss to UMass this year and last. I don't think that great coaches lose cupcakes in their 8th year.
 
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Catbone said:
I mean I know hes not elite... we just aren't that serious about winning. But he is an upgrade
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I dunno if it's "elite" but it's close. We're taking a coach who had a #1 ranking from another SEC school. That's definitely a power move- especially in the days of Disney money eclipsing booster money.
 
#821
#821
superdave1984 said:
My reasoning is Mullen is a "safe" hire, not a "go for it" hire.

We need a big gun. No 9mm, even though it gets the job done. We need a .45 or .50 this time. Stop playing around and swing the bat and go for it.
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We are not getting a big gun. Never have before. Won't now. Not Gruden. Not Kelly, so it will have to be a sitting HC. Now what current HC that might be considered a big gun do you think UT will be able to convince to leave their current position?
 
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#822
HuntsVol_AL said:
I have a hard time spending $6+ million on a guy with a losing record last year (in his 8th year). With losses to South Alabama and Kentucky... and a near loss to UMass this year and last. I don't think that great coaches lose cupcakes in their 8th year.
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if you want to question mullen, i agree, that's it. you know how i feel about mullen. and i've said it many times, he's not my #1, but he's certainly considerable as a candidate. and i think there's enough good there on his resume that can overcome many, if not all, of the shortcomings if paired with a program like TN, and expectations like TN would bring.

the reason he's not higher on lists, is because of that kind of question though.

it's still not a reason to simply not consider him, imo.
 
#824
#824
Crazy Ivan said:
We are not getting a big gun. Never have before. Won't now. Not Gruden. Not Kelly, so it will have to be a sitting HC. Now what current HC that might be considered a big gun do you think UT will be able to convince to leave their current position?
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Mullen is a better hire than Kelly. One is a proven SEC winner. The other was exposed by the SEC.
 
#825
#825
Hubbard said:
You are not alone in wanting to ensure we get a coach that takes us back to competing for the SEC Championship. I don't know why you would even think otherwise.

What we do not need is a "sexy" hire. We need a coach with recent experience as a HC in a major college program that shows qualities that indicate he can be successful at UT. For many here, Mullen is on that list.

They may or may not be others on the search list, but, it is not Gruden. Gruden is a marketing hire more than a coaching hire.
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I would be more than happy to have Gruden, but the reality is he was never coming despite those ridiculous 'grumors'.

Gruden had fun with it and sections of the media gave the grumors traction because they were having fun watching the so-called Gruden or Bust crowd freak out at every little rumor.

The Grudenites simply got played...again.

Fool me once...shame on you.

Fool me thrice...I am one gullible sumbich.
 
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