The Official Dan Mullen Thread

[Grand Vol]

These people are insane aren't they?

Mullen has the best gig in all of college football, on schedule to get another raise and extension... and someone thinks he is going to take a pressure cooker job with a huge pay cut.

Half the point I was making.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Half the point I was making.

:hi:

Gotacha.

I mean at the end of the day, I agree... meaning you either want to coach at a school or you don't. Which is why LSU bailed on Jimbo once the figures were being given. Mullen has a sweet gig for sure.

He is going to get a MASSIVE raise, if he leaves MS. imo

 

[sonofUT62]

These people are insane aren't they?

Mullen has the best gig in all of college football, on schedule to get another raise and extension... and someone thinks he is going to take a pressure cooker job with a huge pay cut.

I want to see any man go home and tell his wife that he is selling the house and taking the kids out of school for a job with less security that also pays less.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I want to see any man go home and tell his wife that he is selling the house and taking the kids out of school for a job with less security that also pays less.

Ain't that the truth.

 

[Grand Vol]

:hi:

Gotacha.

I mean at the end of the day, I agree... meaning you either want to coach at a school or you don't. Which is why LSU bailed on Jimbo once the figures were being given. Mullen has a sweet gig for sure.

He is going to get a MASSIVE raise, if he leaves MS. imo

My point is he's done nothing at MSU worthy of a big time raise at another school. You are correct he's got a sweet gig. He's making $4.5 million a year to go slightly above .500 in conference play and win the Egg Bowl.

 

[Doc_Vol]

 

[UTK]

My point is he's done nothing at MSU worthy of a big time raise at another school. You are correct he's got a sweet gig. He's making $4.5 million a year to go slightly above .500 in conference play and win the Egg Bowl.

What would he have to do at MSU to make him “worthy?” He has them at their ceiling pretty much.

 

[Grand Vol]

What would he have to do at MSU to make him “worthy?” He has them at their ceiling pretty much.

So, you're saying he's done nothing to make Moo State a better program and 6-8 wins per year is his cap?

And this is the coach you want at UT?

 

[TNTechVol]

Mullen....SOON!

 

[vols1707]

Tennessee's top two rivals in the east Florida & Georgia don't want Mullen because he is not a good enough coach to win.

And some of you think it's good to get a coach that Tennessee's rivals don't want....🙄

 

[TNTechVol]

Tennessee's top two rivals in the east Florida & Georgia don't want Mullen because he is not a good enough coach to win.

And some of you think it's good to get a coach that Tennessee's rivals don't want....🙄

I believe Georgia has their coach

 

[DWright39]

Butch took Bama to the wire too a couple of years ago. I dont get how people see Mullen as an elite coach.

Ive read a lot of talk about how UT is supposedly swinging for the fences this time. Mullen is definitely not swinging for the fences.

 

[vols1707]

Butch took Bama to the wire too a couple of years ago. I dont get how people see Mullen as an elite coach.

Ive read a lot of talk about how UT is supposedly swinging for the fences this time. Mullen is definitely not swinging for the fences.

Yea Tennessee is sending smokey to pee on the fence going after Mullen

He is like a slightly better coach than Butch,
With a much better personality

 

[Volatility]

Butch took Bama to the wire too a couple of years ago. I dont get how people see Mullen as an elite coach.

Ive read a lot of talk about how UT is supposedly swinging for the fences this time. Mullen is definitely not swinging for the fences.

He took a worn down Bama to the wire right before their bye week. MSU didn’t have that luxury

 

[DWright39]

Tennessee's top two rivals in the east Florida & Georgia don't want Mullen because he is not a good enough coach to win.

And some of you think it's good to get a coach that Tennessee's rivals don't want....🙄

Evidently its unrealistic expectations to compete with and beat our rivals regularly now.

 

[feathersax]

We'd be 10-2 U again. I'd take it all day!

First time I have agreed with you. MS St- Ole MISS Thursday before UT-vandie. Could there be a timetable?

 

[andywilson001]

Wooooo!!!

 

[cf1375]

So, you're saying he's done nothing to make Moo State a better program and 6-8 wins per year is his cap?

And this is the coach you want at UT?

He's saying you can't make MSU much better than an 8 win program. Few other coaches in the SEC could win as much as he has with the talent there.

 

[daj2576]

Just as a reminder, when Nick Saban was Dan Mullen's current age, he was at 12-11-1 at Michigan State. Saban didn't win his first national title till age 52, after taking the job at LSU, where he had more resources and a much better recruiting footprint than at Michigan State.

This idea that Dan Mullen would be a mediocre hire is rubbish. He's by far the most successful coach in modern Mississippi State history. So many people here at VN are dramatically underestimating how much of a disadvantage Dan Mullen is competing with at Miss State versus teams like Alabama, LSU, Texas A&M, and Auburn. He's 23 - 23 over the past 6 seasons in the SEC West competing against teams with vastly better resources. That's a better conference record than James Franklin had against much tougher competition in the SEC West.

He turned Alex Smith into a top NFL prospect, Tim Tebow into a national championship QB at Florida, made Dak Prescott elite, and this season he's 7-3 with a 2-star QB in Nick Fitzgerald. The dude knows how to coach up QBs! Imagine what he could do with former 5-star and #1 ranked Dual Threat QB Jarrett Guarantano!

With Tennessee's resources, Mullen could achieve more than he has at Miss State.

People look at his record and think that paints the whole picture. It doesn’t.

In relation to talent Mullen consistently and significantly out performs his talent. Think of I this way, in the SEC he should lose almost every game based on the talent he has, but he’s won almost half of his games.

In other words, the vast majority of wins he has should be losses based on how the expected performance of most coaches in his position.

I think he’s a helluva coach and he gets the most out of his talent in the SEC. he’s not a sexy hire, but he’d be good.

That said, I hope he could recruit to UT because it would take his over performance coupled with great recruiting to have real long term success here.

 

[Ertel]

I'm actually on the Norvell bandwagon. The more I read the better he looks. But I'm pretty sure if it's him, it's going to get ugly until he starts winning.

yeah thats the bad part about super high expectations this go round. On one hand its good that we are shooting for the stars, or at least seem to be, with guys like Kelly, Frost, Gruden, Patterson etc. on the other hand its gonna make it a really really tough sell to trot out anyone not immediately deemed a home run hire. Its really not fair to whoever we hire, though they will get the time to turn it around if they have the capability, its gonna be a super short leash with the fans and media until they do. There's some future great coaches out there that are no-names, its a guarantee that they are somewhere, i just hope we find them and make the right choice if we have to go that route.

 

[JoAllan]

Come on, We'd at least never lose to Vandy or Kentucky or South Carolina. Its an improvement.

How is that? He has already lost to 2 of those teams.

And yea Mullen would be an improvement over Butch.

You also think Mullen would come, but don't think Patterson would.......but really none of us know if either would or would not. So if hoping why not hope for Patterson he has proven much more.

 

[jakez4ut]

People look at his record and think that paints the whole picture. It doesn’t.

In relation to talent Mullen consistently and significantly out performs his talent. Think of I this way, in the SEC he should lose almost every game based on the talent he has, but he’s won almost half of his games.

In other words, the vast majority of wins he has should be losses based on how the expected performance of most coaches in his position.

I think he’s a helluva coach and he gets the most out of his talent in the SEC. he’s not a sexy hire, but he’d be good.

That said, I hope he could recruit to UT because it would take his over performance coupled with great recruiting to have real long term success here.

this. he still has questions, but i agree with your premise 100%. and to take it one step further, just from a pure results stand point, MSU has only been to 20 bowls in their entire history, and Mullen has taken them to 7, in a row. they only have 12 Bowl wins in their history, Mullen has 5 of those. they went 11 years in between final rankings in the AP and coaches polls (2000-2010), and Mullen has 2 such finishes since 2010, and should get a 3rd this year.

the question is as you said, would his over performance at MSU combined with better talent opportunity at TN equal the improvement in the results we'd like to see....or at least how consistent could it be?

i think there are other coaches we should look at too, but i wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if Mullen got the job.

 

[UTK]

So, you're saying he's done nothing to make Moo State a better program and 6-8 wins per year is his cap?

And this is the coach you want at UT?

6-8 wins is MSUs cap. Not his. No coach is doing better at MSU than he is. Period.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

SIAP, Barret Sallee on Fox Sports this morning. Told Clay he believes after Gruden #1 is Mullen. Said Mullen wants the job. Think's Kelly has/will pass on FL. Then they go get Frost. Said Frost has been pragmatic and would choose FL over Huskers. Huskers then will go after Chad Morris. Thinks Malzahn likely jumps to Arky. Jimbo, albeit begrudgingly, stays at FSU.

 

[GVol1966]

Mullen would be a good hire.

Can’t argue with that , but on thing that makes me think!
If he isn’t #1 on UF list , which he doesn’t appear to be, Why? He came from there , AD has worked. With him, they know him better than anybody