The Official 2nd Amendment Appreciation Thread

[BEATBAMA12]

Is there any reason not to buy the wylde chambering for an AR barrel?

I haven't found a reason, good to go being head spaced and ready for any Ammo, of course I have only shot 55 grain and 60 grain .223 and 5.56 out of mine on a Adams arms piston upper, I haven't messed around with varmint cartridges because I only use it for target practice.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I haven't found a reason, good to go being head spaced and ready for any Ammo, of course I have only shot 55 grain and 60 grain .223 and 5.56 out of mine on a Adams arms piston upper, I haven't messed around with varmint cartridges because I only use it for target practice.

I'm putting one together for my dad and I'm need to order my barrel and I've found a couple the I like that are identical except for one is Wylde one is not. They are the same price. He'll just plink with it and occasionally varmint hunt with it. Long range accuracy is not required.

 

[Grand Vol]

Is there any reason not to buy the wylde chambering for an AR barrel?

None whatsoever.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Thanks guys!

 

[Grand Vol]

If you go back to my "Building an AR post" in the other thread, the differences in the chamberings are subtle, but important.

.223 chambering - can only be used for .223 ammo, but not 5.56 pressure ammo

.223 Wylde - can safely be used for .223 and 5.56 pressure ammo

5.56 - can be safely used for .223 and 5.56

The Wylde is more accurate than the 5.56 overall if you are looking at longer range shooting. Now, some will tell you "Well, that's BS! I've shot 5.56 out of my .223 chamber forever!" And that may be so, however, the fact there is increased pressure from 5.56 ammo in said .223 chamber can be a significant safety risk and cause a kaboom eventually.

 

[InVOLuntary]

If you go back to my "Building an AR post" in the other thread, the differences in the chamberings are subtle, but important.

.223 chambering - can only be used for .223 ammo, but not 5.56 pressure ammo

.223 Wylde - can safely be used for .223 and 5.56 pressure ammo

5.56 - can be safely used for .223 and 5.56

The Wylde is more accurate than the 5.56 overall if you are looking at longer range shooting. Now, some will tell you "Well, that's BS! I've shot 5.56 out of my .223 chamber forever!" And that may be so, however, the fact there is increased pressure from 5.56 ammo in said .223 chamber can be a significant safety risk and cause a kaboom eventually.

I actually did go back and read that but I didn't know if there was some negative trade out going with the wylde chambering.

 

[InVOLuntary]

VOLALLEN, here's my safe. I was thinking about just buying a lock pick set and trying it myself. I used to fool around with lock picking years ago. Does that lock look fairly easy?

 

[volinbham]

I love the CCP but yea, I heard the takedown was ****.

It's not that bad - really not at all. Definitely more difficult than most polymer pistols but not crazy bad.

If you had to strip it in the field there may be issues but it's not really for that.

Given your love of the Bersa, PPK, etc. you'd like it. Pretty much the same size.

 

[VolAllen]

VOLALLEN, here's my safe. I was thinking about just buying a lock pick set and trying it myself. I used to fool around with lock picking years ago. Does that lock look fairly easy?

Haha I can almost pick it just by looking at it....it didn't happen to open did it? 😂

Serious note, drop it off at a locksmith shop and they'll be in it in 10 seconds. Shouldn't cost more than $20.

 

[VolAllen]

It's not that bad - really not at all. Definitely more difficult than most polymer pistols but not crazy bad.

If you had to strip it in the field there may be issues but it's not really for that.

Given your love of the Bersa, PPK, etc. you'd like it. Pretty much the same size.

Yea I've thought about getting one a few times but I think I might like the PPS for conceal carry a little more. But I'm sure I'll end up with one eventually.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Haha I can almost pick it just by looking at it....it didn't happen to open did it? 😂

Serious note, drop it off at a locksmith shop and they'll be in it in 10 seconds. Shouldn't cost more than $20.

I thought about just ordering a pick set on amazon and trying it myself just for the fun. I used to tinker with it years ago.

 

[volinbham]

Yea I've thought about getting one a few times but I think I might like the PPS for conceal carry a little more. But I'm sure I'll end up with one eventually.

Pick each up and you won't buy the PPS. The ergos on the CCP are so right.

Going to the range tomorrow - will report back.

The Hickock45 video is probably right though - on paper and not shooting it's got problems. But once you shoot it - it's just a shootable gun.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ajx2X1RqA[/youtube]

 

[LouderVol]

That tends to be the attraction behind the AR series (whether 10 or 15) is the ability to tinker with it. It truly is the most modular weapon in history. And there are devices out there that can help clean up the slop in a stock AR.

But to be honest, that FAL will get you somewhat close to the range of the M14. At least within what most shooters are capable of. Out to 500 or so, most won't be able to tell the difference. Beyond that, the M14 platform tends to outshine most save the AR10 platform. The FAL does have some inherent problems, namely the lack of spare parts and commonality between the inch pattern and metric pattern FALs.

Anyhow, another option might be the PTR-91 if you are looking along the lines of a .308 system. I had one and appreciated it for what it was, a heavy, reliable rifle that goes bang and generally hits what you're aiming at.

thats why I liked DSA, seems like they do the whole thing. they have the parts available.

I will look at the PTR-91.

I like the 7.62/.308 round. it will be useful when the overlords take over.

 

[LouderVol]

It's just a thought, but, how about an AK? You can get into a very nice Arsenal for around $800-$1200 depending on options and origin. The only thing you'll need to do is put ammo in it.

One thing you'll need to keep in mind while contemplating battlerifles is .308 is very expensive, and that cost could keep you from learning the rifle on the range. While 7.62x39 and even 5.56/.223 are much cheaper. The savings you get could be used to take a class and really learn how to drive the rifle.

The PTR 91's are great rifles. I wish they would clone the 93. I had an hk93 I ended up trading years ago (stupid, I know) that was one sweet shooting carbine. So many regrets on gun trades over the years.... sigh...

yeah, i know I am buying an expensive round. I like that. I won't be shooting too often to start with so I willing to spend more than I would once I get into it.

 

[kiddiedoc]

VOLALLEN, here's my safe. I was thinking about just buying a lock pick set and trying it myself. I used to fool around with lock picking years ago. Does that lock look fairly easy?

Ha, that's mine exactly

 

[Grand Vol]

thats why I liked DSA, seems like they do the whole thing. they have the parts available.

I will look at the PTR-91.

I like the 7.62/.308 round. it will be useful when the overlords take over.

I honestly still think you should take a look at the AR-10 platform. Plenty of options out there that might fit your needs.

Hell, go for the gold and get a Knights SR-25 E2 ACC or APC. Only thing that needs replacing is the grip.

 

[WarMachine]

Anyone own or shoot an AR in .300 AAC Blackout? Thoughts? Looks like the best of both worlds between 5.56 and 7.62...

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Picked this up after a close inspection. Seems to be very well made, and it shoots pretty good. Does Remington/Marlin finally have their sh*t together? It certainly seems so. I've always loved the 45/70 round, lots of history and very hard hitting.

 

[Grand Vol]

Anyone own or shoot an AR in .300 AAC Blackout? Thoughts? Looks like the best of both worlds between 5.56 and 7.62...

It's an AR platform in .30-30. Almost identical ballistics.

Your best bet for the "middle ground" of 5.56-7.62 would be the 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel.

 

[BEATBAMA12]

Picked this up after a close inspection. Seems to be very well made, and it shoots pretty good. Does Remington/Marlin finally have their sh*t together? It certainly seems so. I've always loved the 45/70 round, lots of history and very hard hitting.

My dream rifle! I want a walnut stock with octagonal barrel , iron sights, I already have the sling I made for when I convince Lil momma I need to buy it.

My great grandfather carried one as a mounted sheriff in Canton Ohio. I have his Marlin model 19 16 gauge pump where the entire bolt slides back to your nose with a hammer, I'll never shoot it but it is still safe and in decent condition, my dad has his horseback scabbard that held both the shotgun and rifle. The shotgun was sold by Abercrombie and fitch, along with his green river fighting knife, I could only imagine how badass my great grandfather was keeping the peace on horseback in Ohio.

His knife has a ebony handle with very aggressive checkering that wouldn't slip out your hand without taking skin with it, I have yet to replicate the checkering, working on a cnc program to cut it into scales for knives I make.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

My dream rifle! I want a walnut stock with octagonal barrel , iron sights, I already have the sling I made for when I convince Lil momma I need to buy it.

My great grandfather carried one as a mounted sheriff in Canton Ohio. I have his Marlin model 19 16 gauge pump where the entire bolt slides back to your nose with a hammer, I'll never shoot it but it is still safe and in decent condition, my dad has his horseback scabbard that held both the shotgun and rifle. The shotgun was sold by Abercrombie and fitch, along with his green river fighting knife, I could only imagine how badass my great grandfather was keeping the peace on horseback in Ohio.

His knife has a ebony handle with very aggressive checkering that wouldn't slip out your hand without taking skin with it, I have yet to replicate the checkering, working on a cnc program to cut it into scales for knives I make.

Very cool man. Thanks for sharing.

Go get your rifle.

 

[WarMachine]

It's an AR platform in .30-30. Almost identical ballistics.

Your best bet for the "middle ground" of 5.56-7.62 would be the 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel.

I guess the primary attraction to the blackout round is that you only have to change the barrel to modify an AR from 5.56 to .300 blackout.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Anyone own or shoot an AR in .300 AAC Blackout? Thoughts? Looks like the best of both worlds between 5.56 and 7.62...

I've built two. They are nice in that the only difference is the barrel. Same mags, bgc etc. If you want to ever shoot suppressed, they excell there too as there are a lot of subsonic rounds available. The biggest downside is the ammo is about two times the price of 556.

 

[WarMachine]

I've built two. They are nice in that the only difference is the barrel. Same mags, bgc etc. If you want to ever shoot suppressed, they excell there too as there are a lot of subsonic rounds available. The biggest downside is the ammo is about two times the price of 556.

Yuck. Well, I guess that makes sense, though, given I'm guessing fairly low supply in comparison to 5.56.

 

[Grand Vol]

Yuck. Well, I guess that makes sense, though, given I'm guessing fairly low supply in comparison to 5.56.

Not unavailable, but not easy to find if you use Walmart as your guide.

300 AAC Blackout Ammo | SGAmmo.com

It's a niche round that has some advantages as InVol explained. But as an overall alternative to the .223/5.56, there are others that outperform it like the 6.8 and 6.5. The downside of those two is the incompatibility of mags and bolts. Upside is you get a whole lot more range.