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tev.sm said:
It’s still fascinating to see guys like Mark Sears, RJ Davis, Caleb Love go undrafted after being multi-year scoring factors for their respective college teams.
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I hear what you're saying, but Sears is an undersized 'finished product' with very limited upside from an NBA point of view. He faces a steep uphill climb to get beyond the G-League unless he just lights it up and gets an opportunity.

Think of it this way - just like every college player was a HS star, virtually every NBA player was a college standout, but there are only about 450 NBA roster spots, meaning a ton of big time producers at the college level will likely never get beyond the G-League. And it's that much harder for older prospects with limited upside growth potential.

What will be interesting to see is the effect that NIL will have on this, as more kids opt for an extra college season or two because they'll make more in school than as a rookie in the NBA if they aren't 1st round picks.
 
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sami said:
I hear what you're saying, but Sears is an undersized 'finished product' with very limited upside from an NBA point of view. He faces a steep uphill climb to get beyond the G-League unless he just lights it up and gets an opportunity.

Think of it this way - just like every college player was a HS star, virtually every NBA player was a college standout, but there are only about 450 NBA roster spots, meaning a ton of big time producers at the college level will likely never get beyond the G-League. And it's that much harder for older prospects with limited upside growth potential.

What will be interesting to see is the effect that NIL will have on this, as more kids opt for an extra college season or two because they'll make more in school than as a rookie in the NBA if they aren't 1st round picks.
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I wasn’t disagreeing with you just as FYI. I understand how the NBA works. It’s still fascinating to me. There’s clear numbers the highlight production from the guys listed but NBA teams draft based on growth and potential. NIL has already had an effect, in my opinion, given the decrease in the number of players who declared for the draft.
 
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I think Mark Sears is a pretty good basketball player, offensively. He is just small.

I’m not convinced Love and Davis are NBA good. I’ve always thought they were closer to Hunter Dickinson. empty stats. don’t actually make your team better.
 
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omghulkhands said:
I think Mark Sears is a pretty good basketball player, offensively. He is just small.

I’m not convinced Love and Davis are NBA good. I’ve always thought they were closer to Hunter Dickinson. empty stats. don’t actually make your team better.
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Sears is pretty close to Brunson sized fwiw. His measurements aren’t automatically disqualifying at least.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Idk id you saw this, but Sears ended up measuring 5’10 without shoes at the combine. Where he was listed at 6’1 at Bama.

Vs Brunson who measured 6’1
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I had not seen that and was comparing the 6’1” listed height. 5’10” is gonna kill your draft chances for sure
 
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Adam2014 said:
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Never thought that this would happen. EA College Football is a huge undertaking in its own right, and while I sincerely doubt you'll get quite the same level of detail/devotion in EA College Basketball you have over 2.5 times the number of schools to worry about. Doing even an adequate job on the low-majors plus gibing the Top 25/T25-adjacent programs the love they deserve is going to be amazing if done properly.

Another plus is that they can't just use some kind of Frostbite NBA Live engine and mold the collegiate atmosphere around it. This is going to be entirely from the ground up, which has a lot of cool potential.
 
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TrumpedUpVol said:
Never thought that this would happen. EA College Football is a huge undertaking in its own right, and while I sincerely doubt you'll get quite the same level of detail/devotion in EA College Basketball you have over 2.5 times the number of schools to worry about. Doing even an adequate job on the low-majors plus gibing the Top 25/T25-adjacent programs the love they deserve is going to be amazing if done properly.

Another plus is that they can't just use some kind of Frostbite NBA Live engine and mold the collegiate atmosphere around it. This is going to be entirely from the ground up, which has a lot of cool potential.
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Sounds like it won't be back until 2028, though :(
 
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Yeah, Mark Sears was the shortest player at the combine 5'10 3/4" without shoes, which isn't the worst height for a PG...but the fact he's that small and also finished outside the top performers in every single agility drill, really killed his stock. I also think Bama's offense hasn't done many favors for players going into the draft. Unless you're also physically gifted like Brandon Miller seems the scouts think it's like an Air Raid in basketball.

Sears also had the shortest standing reach and wingspan (this one I think hurt him a lot).

The Lane Agility...Sears ran 10.96, a few guys that were ahead of that time...Grant Nelson, Cooper Flagg, Asa Newell, Otega Oweh...

Shuttle run, tall guys benefit a lot, but Sears' time of 3.25 was the 3rd worst of all players that ran it, only Derik Queen & Khaman Maluach were slower (both Centers).

He also ran 3.28 in the 3/4...Alex Condon was faster, as was most the rest of the combine. His size and his drills just really pigeon holed him into a very undersized spot up shooter (in the eyes of the NBA at least).
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Yeah, Mark Sears was the shortest player at the combine 5'10 3/4" without shoes, which isn't the worst height for a PG...but the fact he's that small and also finished outside the top performers in every single agility drill, really killed his stock. I also think Bama's offense hasn't done many favors for players going into the draft. Unless you're also physically gifted like Brandon Miller seems the scouts think it's like an Air Raid in basketball.

Sears also had the shortest standing reach and wingspan (this one I think hurt him a lot).

The Lane Agility...Sears ran 10.96, a few guys that were ahead of that time...Grant Nelson, Cooper Flagg, Asa Newell, Otega Oweh...

Shuttle run, tall guys benefit a lot, but Sears' time of 3.25 was the 3rd worst of all players that ran it, only Derik Queen & Khaman Maluach were slower (both Centers).

He also ran 3.28 in the 3/4...Alex Condon was faster, as was most the rest of the combine. His size and his drills just really pigeon holed him into a very undersized spot up shooter (in the eyes of the NBA at least).
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IMO, much of his success was at the FT line where SEC officials bailed him out when he’d barrel into someone in the lane without a prayer of making a shot. He could get hot from 3 and light it up some games, but without all the questionable free throws (set the bama record with 198 made FT’s) adding to his point average he comes back to the pack.
 
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If we are going back to Adidas, I pray they don't mess with the basketball uniforms much if at all. They are perfection to me right now, well the black one isn't my favorite but it matches the baseball uniform so I'll allow it.

As much as I loved the Pearl years and all, those uniforms look fugly now. I didn't even really like the initial Nike ones that much.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
If we are going back to Adidas, I pray they don't mess with the basketball uniforms much if at all. They are perfection to me right now, well the black one isn't my favorite but it matches the baseball uniform so I'll allow it.

As much as I loved the Pearl years and all, those uniforms look fugly now. I didn't even really like the initial Nike ones that much.
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Agree on all points. These black jerseys are a much better option.Screenshot_20250707_124440_Samsung Internet.jpg
 
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