The Kim Caldwell System

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creekdipper said:
Just asking out of curiosity and naivety re: WNBA style of play:

How well does Kim's system translate to professional bball both here and abroad in terms of preparing players hoping to play professionally after college?

Thanks in advance.
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Interesting question. I believe a player with excellent basketball skills and athleticism can succeed in any system. Basketball smarts come in there too as does having a competitive nature and work ethic. I've seen little improvement in basic skills like dribbling, passing, shooting etc etc out of some of our older players. Time will tell with the youngsters. I don't believe playing in Caldwell's "system" is a big positive nor negative as a predictor of success at the next level. Just my opinion, of course.
 
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creekdipper said:
Just asking out of curiosity and naivety re: WNBA style of play:

How well does Kim's system translate to professional bball both here and abroad in terms of preparing players hoping to play professionally after college?

Thanks in advance.
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Cant speak for international, but in the W it doesn't really translate at all, especially defensively. Offensively, no doubt some would love the chunk a quick 3 offense . And they do love bigs that can run and shoot 3s.

But defensively, never in a million years would professional athletes risk their legs in such a system. Legs are the coin of the realm and any system that requires this much extra training and wear on the legs in a 45 game season would never go over.You don't see much pressing in the pros except late in the games.

Even more so, the frequent subbing would never ever ever happen. It makes me chuckle to even think of pros being subbed out every two minutes. No possibility.
 
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You always have to get points over your shot total. We don't have the three point shooters that do that often actually hardly at all. If your going to take 44 threes you have to get at least 45 points out of it and that would be 15 made. Even then your giving up the opportunities of the availability of the much easier shot and the ability to get to the free throw line. So our 30 points on 44 threes is terribly ugly and very poor decisions by the players and also the staff for not stopping it before we even got close to that number. 20 points on 18 shots shows the better efficiency. Of course some of the points came at the free throw line, but that is certainly part of the two point shot attempt 95 percent of the time as compared to the 3 point where you seldom get fouled.
 
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StorrsCentral said:
What's your opinion smart guy? This is a public forum, unless you are one of those people that try to muzzle free speech. BTW, at least I can spell Knoxville correctly.
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Nobody gives rats tail what you think. Take your butt to your message board.
 
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creekdipper said:
Just asking out of curiosity and naivety re: WNBA style of play:

How well does Kim's system translate to professional bball both here and abroad in terms of preparing players hoping to play professionally after college?

Thanks in advance.
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Who remembers Rick Pitino with the Boston Celtics! He tried to bring over the same philosophy in the NBA and blew up in face, on and off the court! This system doesn't do well with an 82 game schedule and it damn sure wouldn't work at at 44 game schedule.
 
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LadyVolsDiehard said:
Who remembers Rick Pitino with the Boston Celtics! He tried to bring over the same philosophy in the NBA and blew up in face, on and off the court! This system doesn't do well with an 82 game schedule and it damn sure wouldn't work at at 44 game schedule.
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worked better when he was with the nicks though.
 
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LadyVolsDiehard said:
Who remembers Rick Pitino with the Boston Celtics! He tried to bring over the same philosophy in the NBA and blew up in face, on and off the court! This system doesn't do well with an 82 game schedule and it damn sure wouldn't work at at 44 game schedule.
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He got the hell away from all the sh---- changes in the organization. Larry Bird and crew weren't walking thru the door. Salary caps and all the b.s. in the NBA is why he got out of it. Pitino is the best coach in basketball period.
 
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StorrsCentral said:
I think CKC is over her head at this time, but to coach at this level and get success will take time. She is not used to big time WBB, only depending on her Mid-major and D2 experience. I think the major problem is not being around other coaches, or even assistent coaches from big time programs. I don't know how much recruiting travel she does, but this is the opportunity to mix with these veteran coaches, get to know them, ask them for advice. In her past life, she would not have that chance as they would not be recruiting the same players. Another mistake, her staff. I don't know all the specifics, but she should have recruited some assistant coaches with the big time experience, coaches that actually may have helped her in her indoctrination to big time WBB. Her lack of experience is hindering her ability to adjust on the fly, because always winning at the mid-major level won't give you the challenges that she is getting now, especially if her staff also doesn't have the experience. Change should be made, if not CKC then at the assistant level. It also wouldn't hurt to have a disciplinarian on the staff to keep everyone in line.
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You raise an interesting issue. During Kellie's time, her assistant coach husband, John, was a lightning rod for criticism. And much of it hinged on a legitimate question; could Kellie not find a better assistant than her husband? The defense, was often, well maybe she could find a better X and O coach but that is the person she is most comfortable with..... But maybe she did need to be comfortable but instead, needed a strong reality checking voice and someone who would bring fresh ideas.

Now, CKC has filled 3 of her 5 staff positions with assistant coaches who followed her up the ranks from D2 Glenville State and her one mid major season at Marshall [Lexie had one year of coaching experience at another midmajor James Madison]. And Angie is still a "pup" in coaching years.

So, we have a coach in her first season as a DI coach at major program who surrounded herself with D2 and midmajor (and relatively inexperienced) coaching talent. Yes, she has Gabe and Roman who have SEC pedigree but CKC's staff could clearly be strengthened.

If this season's struggles continue on, I would imagine some shake-off in the assistant staff might be on the horizon.
 
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