The Impeachment Thread

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1972 Grad said:
It probably does, because the people on here that watch it most are Mick, LG, Luther, and Septic.
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Take me off that list. I don't think I've watched 5 minutes in the past year. I do occasionally see clips where they are making fun of Fox.
 
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luthervol said:
It was rhetorical, meaning no answer was expected.
Of course aid has been withheld before and of course that has absolutely nothing to do with Trump's bribery.
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Wasn't rhetorical. I mentioned many pages ago i do not follow this story. Im trying to sift through the poo and get some legitimate (to me) Qs answered.
 
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luthervol said:
It was rhetorical, meaning no answer was expected.
Of course aid has been withheld before and of course that has absolutely nothing to do with Trump's bribery.
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Do you recollect why aid has been delayed in past?

From my convo with rockytop85, it looks like bribery is no longer mentioned in the consideration of impeachment even though is wad a key point back in November.
 
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Trump will be impeached. He will then be acquitted in the Senate. Afterwards most Americans will celebrate that this whole fiasco is over because most don’t give a damn about any of this.
 
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McDad said:
Wasn't rhetorical. I mentioned many pages ago i do not follow this story. Im trying to sift through the poo and get some legitimate (to me) Qs answered.
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Lots of good info. I just copied a few different pieces. Worth reading.
Donny & the Whistleblower: Impeachment Inquiry Opened
What has been obscured in the back and forth is that presidents do, in fact, have broad authority to condition aid to a foreign nation, even to delay it if there are concerns that it will not be used for its intended purposes. That is Trump’s power as president. But he doesn’t appear to have exercised it lawfully in this case.
Under ordinary circumstances, deciding to withhold urgently needed assistance to an important ally would engage the national security establishment at the highest level.
Pentagon official Laura Cooper suggested in a July 31 meeting that if the administration was going to hold up aid, it was obliged to either rescind the appropriation or ask the Defense Department to reprogram the resources. This would have been in accordance with the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which prevents the president from unilaterally substituting his own funding decisions for those of Congress.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Trump will be impeached. He will then be acquitted in the Senate. Afterwards most Americans will celebrate that this whole fiasco is over because most don’t give a damn about any of this.
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Im weird. I hope it lasts a lot longer.
 
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Septic said:
Fox poll says 50% want impeachment AND removal.

That's a Fox poll. FOX. F.O.X.

Also, 50%, that's awful. Half of 'Murica, that's more than the totality of the Dems, it must include some independents as well.

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We can all play this stupid game. NBC says more Americans are against impeachment than for it. That’s NBC. NBC!
 
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luthervol said:
Lots of good info. I just copied a few different pieces. Worth reading.
Donny & the Whistleblower: Impeachment Inquiry Opened
What has been obscured in the back and forth is that presidents do, in fact, have broad authority to condition aid to a foreign nation, even to delay it if there are concerns that it will not be used for its intended purposes. That is Trump’s power as president. But he doesn’t appear to have exercised it lawfully in this case.
Under ordinary circumstances, deciding to withhold urgently needed assistance to an important ally would engage the national security establishment at the highest level.
Pentagon official Laura Cooper suggested in a July 31 meeting that if the administration was going to hold up aid, it was obliged to either rescind the appropriation or ask the Defense Department to reprogram the resources. This would have been in accordance with the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which prevents the president from unilaterally substituting his own funding decisions for those of Congress.
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Are lines of distinction between lawful and unlawful conditional foreign aid set as a matter of law or precedent (since presidents do have broad authority in such matters)?
 
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Boston Vol said:
Trump will be impeached. He will then be acquitted in the Senate. Afterwards most Americans will celebrate that this whole fiasco is over because most don’t give a damn about any of this.
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Most Americans don’t care. A lot know it’s a sham. A very very few radicals thinks this is actually serious
 
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