The Impeachment Thread

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PointGuard said:
Really? Go down the list. Start with the date Obamacare was repealed and name the successor program. Oh I see you can’t make it past the first on the list
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wow

You know what. I can live with the fact that he hasn't undone your Messiah's signature POS. He has many more years of incompetent 'leadership' to undo... Republican and Dimwit alike. It takes time. IF he fails on a couple, I can accept it and move on and enjoy the big wins he has accomplished.

you lose.


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Velo Vol said:
No! Not on NATO meeting day! Can you believe the audacity?

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Schiff and gang look like a bunch of clowns. They are not serious about doing anything but impeachment.

Nothing wrong with pointing it out.

For the record, I think it’s great...a win win. They are helping the re-elect Trump movement while at the same time not taking away more of our freedom.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
wow

You know what. I can live with the fact that he hasn't undone your Messiah's signature POS. He has many more years of incompetent 'leadership' to undo... Republican and Dimwit alike. It takes time. IF he fails on a couple, I can accept it and move on and enjoy the big wins he has accomplished.

you lose.


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So he hasn’t filled one of those campaign promises. You acknowledge you’re ok with he didn’t meet some of this promises without acknowledging he didn’t meet any - not a single one. You also don’t acknowledge the Courts prevented some of his racist objectives (Muslim ban as one example) because they go against the grain of who we are as a society. (read the plaque on the Statute of Liberty)

Instead it seems you really like his self published list of accomplishments without regard to their accuracy (truthfulness)

I agree with North Dallas Trump gets credit for the continuation of a strong economy. He gets credit because he was President just like whomever is President will be saddled with it’s failure when the economy tanks between 2020 and 2024. But that list states a strong economy in how many different redundant ways. Shrink the list by what 10 or more bullet points. I didn’t take the time to count - - the first handful is just more Trump puffing based on redundancy

I disagree with you all of you who think that the stock market is an indicator of a strong economy. It is only an indicator of a strong stock market (investor naïveté based on underachieving fundamentals). But if profit taking ensues in early 2020 and the market tanks Trump will be saddled with that failure. (Don’t fret the market will continue to be propped up so that won’t occur just as similarly Jr.’s book had hit the best seller’s list because the RNC bought in bulk)

Regarding your bigger point please give me one example of what big win Trump has accomplished in your opinion that touches your life on a daily or frequent basis that you are able to enjoy so much

Thank you
 
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Orange_Crush said:
In comparison, the most famous malware hack in history is stuxnet, from 2010, attributed with damaging Iran nuclear equipment. Though there is suspicion as to who did it, it's still never been proven. That's nine years.

They'd fingered Russia for this within hours. Pretty convenient.

(PS: stuxnet had infected a huge amount of machines, but only acted on a very specific hardware combination. That means that the malware code and IOCs have been in public domain for years. With nearly every Cyber security sme worth proverbial salt reverse engineering it, they still haven't proven the perpetrators.

Yet a single investigator fingered a nation state hack, within hours, alone. The federal government never asked for proof and never even interviewed him.)
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Maybe they were hoping someone would win and not question anything?
 
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DC_Vol said:
Schiff and gang look like a bunch of clowns. They are not serious about doing anything but impeachment.

Nothing wrong with pointing it out.

For the record, I think it’s great...a win win. They are helping the re-elect Trump movement while at the same time not taking away more of our freedom.
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You may be right. The House impeachment Inquiry might just ensure Trump’s re-election

Because Many don’t understand one core role of the House. Oversight of the Executive Branch (the Presidency). The last House not only didn’t engage in Oversight it engaged in Partisan obstruction. The Republicans refused to call witnesses (Nunes on On Intelligence Committee) from testifying in Russian meddling probe

Now the Democrat Controlled house is , correctly, following the process. It has opened the Inquiry. Trump, Gym Jordan, Nunes, and others do a better job of explaining what’s wrong ( really nothing) than Schiff and others Democrats do in explaining what’s right. See the constitution

The initiating of an Impeachment Inquiry can not be started Willy nilly It wasn’t

Following the process does not mean Trump will be impeached in the House ( although the evidence is strong)

If he is impeached in the House Trump will almost assuredly not be found guilty in the Senate. Therefore, he will not be removed from office just as Clinton, while too impeached, was not removed.

After the fact Trump, Gaetz, Jordan, Nunes, Meadows and all other ultra right wingers will do a better snow job than Schiff and his kind will do in presenting facts

If that occurs, and I believe it will, Trump will be re-elected. The Democrats just don’t understand a street brawl. You can’t win one just because your POV is correct
 
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PointGuard said:
You may be right. The House impeachment Inquiry might just ensure Trump’s re-election

Because Many don’t understand one core role of the House. Oversight of the Executive Branch (the Presidency). The last House not only didn’t engage in Oversight it engaged in Partisan obstruction. The Republicans refused to call witnesses (Nunes on On Intelligence Committee) from testifying in Russian meddling probe

Now the Democrat Controlled house is , correctly, following the process. It has opened the Inquiry. Trump, Gym Jordan, Nunes, and others do a better job of explaining what’s wrong ( really nothing) than Schiff and others Democrats do in explaining what’s right. See the constitution

The initiating of an Impeachment Inquiry can not be started Willy nilly It wasn’t

Following the process does not mean Trump will be impeached in the House ( although the evidence is strong)

If he is impeached in the House Trump will almost assuredly not be found guilty in the Senate. Therefore, he will not be removed from office just as Clinton, while too impeached, was not removed.

After the fact Trump, Gaetz, Jordan, Nunes, Meadows and all other ultra right wingers will do a better snow job than Schiff and his kind will do in presenting facts

If that occurs, and I believe it will, Trump will be re-elected. The Democrats just don’t understand a street brawl. You can’t win one just because your POV is correct
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The impeachment proceedings are a farce built on a whole lotta hearsay. In contrast, we have the actual call summaries. It takes some pretty big leaps to draw a conclusion of bribery or quid pro quo.

The impeachment hearing is a circus. The Democrats know it. And public support for it is eroding quickly.

I hope the Democrats keep it up into next year.
 
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PointGuard said:
So he hasn’t filled one of those campaign promises. You acknowledge you’re ok with he didn’t meet some of this promises without acknowledging he didn’t meet any - not a single one. You also don’t acknowledge the Courts prevented some of his racist objectives (Muslim ban as one example) because they go against the grain of who we are as a society. (read the plaque on the Statute of Liberty)

Instead it seems you really like his self published list of accomplishments without regard to their accuracy (truthfulness)

I agree with North Dallas Trump gets credit for the continuation of a strong economy. He gets credit because he was President just like whomever is President will be saddled with it’s failure when the economy tanks between 2020 and 2024. But that list states a strong economy in how many different redundant ways. Shrink the list by what 10 or more bullet points. I didn’t take the time to count - - the first handful is just more Trump puffing based on redundancy

I disagree with you all of you who think that the stock market is an indicator of a strong economy. It is only an indicator of a strong stock market (investor naïveté based on underachieving fundamentals). But if profit taking ensues in early 2020 and the market tanks Trump will be saddled with that failure. (Don’t fret the market will continue to be propped up so that won’t occur just as similarly Jr.’s book had hit the best seller’s list because the RNC bought in bulk)

Regarding your bigger point please give me one example of what big win Trump has accomplished in your opinion that touches your life on a daily or frequent basis that you are able to enjoy so much

Thank you
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Tl:dr

Oh, and lulz
 
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DC_Vol said:
The impeachment proceedings are a farce built on a whole lotta hearsay. In contrast, we have the actual call summaries. It takes some pretty big leaps to draw a conclusion of bribery or quid pro quo.

The impeachment hearing is a circus. The Democrats know it. And public support for it is eroding quickly.

I hope the Democrats keep it up into next year.
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Public support is eroding quickly I agree. It should not be but it is
 
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FLVOL69 said:
And why do you think that is? Lack of factual evidence for one.
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No lack of people accepting evidence as one. Fanny fatigue as another. The Constant non news discussion of the Mueller report over 17 months has eliminated patience Barr’s misrepresentation of the report closed the listening of many. 10 counts of Obstructing Justice is of insignificant interest to many because it followed there was not enough evidence to successfully indict on conspiracy. Too many interpreted insufficient as none

Space Cadet’s tl:dr is a real issue for many although IMO not the reason for his reply now. People don’t have enough patience to learn enough
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
People recognize a farce when they see it. You have a long 5 years coming up
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Too many people seeing farce because their dear leader tells them to see farce. Sondland recanted his lyingand told the truth in his testimony correcting his lie in his deposition

But Trump creates a second call which he proclaims is the first call and states to no one because there was no call that “ I want nothing”. No quid pro quo

That imaginary call is the farce. Look how many posters here believe Trumps created alternate facts. It is amazing to me that otherwise intelligent people do not realize that their hatred has permitted a Trump to worm his brainwashing to settle into their conscienceness

Regarding a Trump re-election ? If Re elected you will not believe how his exploded sense of empowerment will wreak havoc worldwide. This manus seriously mental ill. 35 esteemed physichiatrists testified early on to a deaf congress
 
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PointGuard said:
Too many people seeing farce because their dear leader tells them to see farce. Sondland recanted his lyingand told the truth in his testimony correcting his lie in his deposition

But Trump creates a second call which he proclaims is the first call and states to no one because there was no call that “ I want nothing”. No quid pro quo

That imaginary call is the farce. Look how many posters here believe Trumps created alternate facts. It is amazing to me that otherwise intelligent people do not realize that their hatred has permitted a Trump to worm his brainwashing to settle into their conscienceness

Regarding a Trump re-election ? If Re elected you will not believe how his exploded sense of empowerment will wreak havoc worldwide. This manus seriously mental ill. 35 esteemed physichiatrists testified early on to a deaf congress
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Damn you are one triggered individual
 
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PointGuard said:
LOL. That’s all you got. No debating facts because you can’t deny the contents of the post. Deflect. Obfuscate
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Well we know nothing came from Mueller’s circus. He couldn’t even state that he would file charges if he could. And he didn’t bring any charges related to Russian collusion to anyone. Big whiff.

Now it’s on to the Ukraine impeachment circus. It was pretty clear it was going to be another whiff after hearing from the first three witnesses. 🤣

People understand what is going on and it has nothing to do with justice or performing the duties of government.

Just think of all the things Schiff and Co. could have stopped or actually got done it they hadn’t spent three years chasing a ghost. But like I said, I can be thankful for the in kind contribution to the Trump 2020 campaign and for being too busy constructing a hoax that they aren’t up to the usual business of taking more freedom from the people.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Well we know nothing came from Mueller’s circus. He couldn’t even state that he would file charges if he could. And he didn’t bring any charges related to Russian collusion to anyone. Big whiff.

Now it’s on to the Ukraine impeachment circus. It was pretty clear it was going to be another whiff after hearing from the first three witnesses. 🤣

People understand what is going on and it has nothing to do with justice or performing the duties of government.

Just think of all the things Schiff and Co. could have stopped or actually got done it they hadn’t spent three years chasing a ghost. But like I said, I can be thankful for the in kind contribution to the Trump 2020 campaign and for being too busy constructing a hoax that they aren’t up to the usual business of taking more freedom from the people.
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I wonder what the Dems have up their sleeves as the next go to after the impeachment thingy blows up.
 
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volfanhill said:
Of course that’s why. But it’s not surprising as both sides of the aisle do this crap.
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So is it a problem or not? If it is then bring charges and then do so against all the others. If not, move on. Of course I don’t mean you, I’m speaking in general. Like you said though, they all do this. Hell, this is the way a lot of America works. People get prominent positions often because of who they know rather than what they know and sometimes it’s “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine.” Being in a government position is certainly different but we need to draw the line on whether something will be done about it or not and move on one way or the other.
 
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