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BowlBrother85 said:
Are you actually reading these?

They emphasize how reluctant Trump was to impose sanctions on Russia. He would only do so under extreme pressure from Republicans in Congress ... and when he had no choice, because a sanction bill had passed through Congress with veto-proof support.
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Extreme pressure my ass. Those sanctions were compounded from 2018 till 2020
 
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#2,453
hog88 said:
How many times do I have to say no?
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I'm just trying to get to a factual basis for the opinion that Trump would have prevented this.
"Putin was scared of trump and didn't invade because he was worried about the consequences," has no greater factual basis than "putin saw trump as a useful idiot and would rather not subject him to the foreign policy scrutiny prior to an election," at this point.
 
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#2,454
BowlBrother85 said:
Are you actually reading these?

They emphasize how reluctant Trump was to impose sanctions on Russia. He would only do so under extreme pressure from Republicans in Congress ... and when he had no choice, because a sanctions bill had passed through Congress with a veto-proof majority support. Even then, he denounced the sanctions, and took for ever to have them implemented.
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And even then he figured out ways to minimize them. Anything for his boss.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Extreme pressure my ass. Those sanctions were compounded from 2018 till 2020
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Read the articles ... they spell it out. He was under pressure from Republican Senators. You are in denial. He denounced the sanctions bill which passed through Congress with a veto-proof support. He didn't want those imposed. That's a fact.
 
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#2,465
BowlBrother85 said:
The SolarWinds hack certainly wasn't ... and Trump publicly sided with Putin over the assessments of his own hand-picked Secretary of State and Attorney General. That was not normal.
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You have yelled from the mountaintops that Trump was in some conspiracy with Putin for years. None of that has ever been proven. Facts.
So you are allowed to speculate such non sense, but I have to know the answers for why diplomacy might be beneficial?
I will pass on this game.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I'm just trying to get to a factual basis for the opinion that Trump would have prevented this.
"Putin was scared of trump and didn't invade because he was worried about the consequences," has no greater factual basis than "putin saw trump as a useful idiot and would rather not subject him to the foreign policy scrutiny prior to an election," at this point.
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I didn’t say Trump would have prevented the invasion.
 
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#2,467
Orangeburst said:
You have yelled from the mountaintops that Trump was in some conspiracy with Putin for years. None of that has ever been proven. Facts.
So you are allowed to speculate such non sense, but I have to know the answers for why diplomacy might be beneficial?
I will pass on this game.
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I have not yelled from the mountaintops that trump was involved in a conspiracy with Putin for years, so i will ask the question. Given Trump's foreign policy statements, what diplomatic actions would he have undertaken to prevent the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
 
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#2,469
Orangeburst said:
You have yelled from the mountaintops that Trump was in some conspiracy with Putin for years. None of that has ever been proven. Facts.
So you are allowed to speculate such non sense, but I have to know the answers for why diplomacy might be beneficial?
I will pass on this game.
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Are you are referring to Trump publicly siding with Vladimir Putin's denial, over the professional assessments of his own hand-picked Secretary of State and Attorney General as being an act of .... "DIPLOMACY?"

LOL. That is crazy!
 
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Fiona Hill, the Russia expert, former senior National Security Council aide in the Trump White House and star witness against Trump in his first impeachment, appeared recently on a program sponsored by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. Discussing the Ukraine war, Hill suggested that Putin waited to invade Ukraine until Biden became president, preferring Biden's "predictability" to Trump's volatility.


Fiona Hill..LOL

Did Putin wait until Biden became President to invade Ukraine? | Byron York
 
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Orangeburst said:
In this view, Putin saw Biden as someone he could deal with as Russia seized territory from Ukraine. But not the erratic Trump.
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Please tell me what about Trump's foreign policy statements and Biden's reaction to this lends credence to this theory. What has Biden been willing to "deal" on so far?
 
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