The DeSantis containment thread -- all things DeSantis go here

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Vol8188 said:
🤣 that’s amazing. When people go to Miami, The Keys, St Aug, Tampa, Daytona, etc

They’re really only going for Disney
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Florida and Disney have historically been very good for one another and have worked in a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship. It now appears however that Disney has gotten too big for their britches and decided that they now want to control the relationship and dictate terms. Then the express shock when the other partner pushes back? 😂
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Florida and Disney have historically been very good for one another and have worked in a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship. It now appears however that Disney has gotten too big for their britches and decided that they now want to control the relationship and dictate terms. Then the express shock when the other partner pushes back? 😂
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You're putting way too much blame on one side. There's no need to invent a fight
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Nope, Disney themselves made the decision to stop being a simple business and decided they wanted to dictate terms to the government. When they did that they lost all claims to being an innocent company. They are a PAC now and if they didn’t want To play hardball, they shouldn’t have suited up and stepped on the field. They chose to Pick a fight with a wildly popular governor and a solidly Republican legislature. It’s gametime now. And Disney can’t complain
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OrangeTsar said:
Nope, Disney themselves made the decision to stop being a simple business and decided they wanted to dictate terms to the government. When they did that they lost all claims to being an innocent company. They are a PAC now and if they didn’t want To play hardball, they shouldn’t have suited up and stepped on the field. They chose to Pick a fight with a wildly popular governor and a solidly Republican legislature. It’s gametime now. And Disney can’t complain
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Since when can't businesses have a political opinion? You trumpers like to complain about government meddling and cancel culture except when it's silencing a political opponent. Downright scummy to renege on promises made, but that's your style.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
I'd argue that lots of sunshine, beaches, well-run state and lack of snow are the major reasons Florida has prospered. Disney could have located in Michigan, but for these reasons, they didn't.
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Florida has benefitted greatly from Disney's decision to locate here.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Indeed. If you want to know who REALLY created Florida, here is your man…..
Henry Flagler - Wikipedia
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In historical perspective, "Flagler built his tourist empire — and modern Florida — by exploiting two brutal labor systems that blanketed the South for 50 years after the Civil War: convict leasing and debt peonage. Created to preserve the white supremacist racial order and to address the South’s labor shortages, these systems targeted African Americans, stealing their labor and entrapping them in state-sanctioned forms of involuntary servitude.... Some 4,000 workers, including many as young as 15, became slaves in all but name." When an investigative journalist and the U.S. Justice Department uncovered the practices, Flagler and his allies successfully mobilized to whitewash the findings in Congress and white-owned Florida newspapers, some directly controlled by Flagler himself.


His tourism empire pales in comparison to Disney.
 
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VolInNW said:
We have a different view of DeSantis in general, my Vol friend, but he is a skillful manipulator of his base. No debate there.
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He is not just a skillful manipulator of his base, he also seems skillful at identifying exactly which issues are potential ways to expand his base. Make no mistake, he saw the results from Virginia last fall and he has seen the education issue being very important to independents. He also is very good at trolling his opponents into overreacting which is exactly what he did with Disney. If their CEO could have kept his mouth shut the issue would have cycled of the news within a week. But he went and gave DeSantis Just the fight he was looking for
 
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OrangeTsar said:
He is not just a skillful manipulator of his base, he also seems skillful at identifying exactly which issues are potential ways to expand his base. Make no mistake, he saw the results from Virginia last fall and he has seen the education issue being very important to independents. He also is very good at trolling his opponents into overreacting which is exactly what he did with Disney. If their CEO could have kept his mouth shut the issue would have cycled of the news within a week. But he went and gave DeSantis Just the fight he was looking for
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He's creating an issue. It is political hackery at it's finest.

 
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OrangeTsar said:
When a company threatens to basically fund political opponents to defeat sitting legislators, the fight is automatically created
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So, if I say I am going to support DeSantis opponents should he be permitted to have the police follow me and ticket me if I exceed the speed limit by 1MPH or forget to signal when changing lanes? Is that where we are that we should expect to be punished for having an opinion that differs from our King?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
So, if I say I am going to support DeSantis opponents should he be permitted to have the police follow me and ticket me if I exceed the speed limit by 1MPH or forget to signal when changing lanes? Is that where we are that we should expect to be punished for having an opinion that differs from our King?
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Ask Merick Garland. He is investigating parents as terrorists for daring speak in opposition to CRT at school board Meetings. Then get back to me
 
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