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hog88 said:
I think sex/sexual preference discussions should be avoided in schools through the 5th grade at least. Teaching how we reproduce, the mechanics of it and how to prevent it should probably start in the 7th (maybe 6th) grade as part of biology. I don't know when or even if sexual preferences should be a school topic but I do know it doesn't belong in elementary grades.
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So, do teachers ignore the concepts of husbands, wives, moms, and dads until 5th grade?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
What difference does the grade make? If a parent can be censored for reading it, why in the Sam Hill should any child at any grade be reading it. Do you not see the absolute UNBRIDLED ABSURDITY of the situation? It is NC-17 in reverse. „No one above 17 admitted unless accompanied by a child“. Had the entire world gone start racing mad?
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If I stood up and read Dr. Seuss they would tell me to shut up. Time and place. Now answer my questions about Stephen King and Chaucer.
 
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hog88 said:
I don't think what another kids parents are/do is an appropriate topic for teachers to discuss, best to leave that up to the parents.
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So if a parent believes evolution is bs we should stop teaching it. I believe math is inappropriate. Should we ban it?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
What difference does the grade make? If a parent can be censored for reading it, why in the Sam Hill should any child at any grade be reading it. Do you not see the absolute UNBRIDLED ABSURDITY of the situation? It is NC-17 in reverse. „No one above 17 admitted unless accompanied by a child“. Had the entire world gone stark raving mad?
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It's not absurd to believe a private reading of text is different than reading aloud in a public forum that's likely even televised.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
So, do teachers ignore the concepts of husbands, wives, moms, and dads until 5th grade?
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Family, in whatever form that may be. They don't have to discuss any specifics. "Why doe's Billy have 2 dads?" "It's his family, talk to your parents if you have more questions"
 
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hog88 said:
Family, in whatever form that may be. They don't have to discuss any specifics. "Why doe's Billy have 2 dads?" "It's his family, talk to your parents if you have more questions"
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How about his parents love each other and him just like yours love each other and you.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The text I read would seem to allow it. Personally, I think it should be prohibited. But that bill's text is a mish mash of crap that does nothing but encourage litigation with its fee shifting provision.
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The bold, I do agree with you on.

I disagree with any legislation preventing a teacher/administrator from informing a parent about their kids activities be it sex, drugs or what have you. I also disagree with any legislation mandating they be informed.
 
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How I feel every day on these threads. I gotta leave for a while before the eye twitch starts up 😉

In every day in every way I am getting better and better
 
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hog88 said:
The bold, I do agree with you on.

I disagree with any legislation preventing a teacher/administrator from informing a parent about their kids activities be it sex, drugs or what have you. I also disagree with any legislation mandating they be informed.
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If they get caught having sex or doing drugs at school then notify away. If suspected drug use is affecting academic performance notify. If the kid is gay, but doesn't feel like coming out to parents I suspect there is a reason. Therefore notifying parents should be prohibited.

And once again, we are comparing a gayness to illegal activities. It's bs.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
If they get caught having sex or doing drugs at school then notify away. If suspected drug use is affecting academic performance notify. If the kid is gay, but doesn't feel like coming out to parents I suspect there is a reason. Therefore notifying parents should be prohibited.

And once again, we are comparing a gayness to illegal activities. It's bs.
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No, I said sex. I have no problem with a teacher notifying parents that they suspect Pat and Chris are having sex.
 
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hog88 said:
See I think schools would be better with more communication between parents and teachers and a teacher should never hide information from parents.
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Outing a kid to parents is not a good thing. If the kid isn't comfortable them himself, then it has the potential to be a dangerous situation.

Communication is great. Talk about behavioral issues, academic issues and expectations all day.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
How about his parents love each other and him just like yours love each other and you.
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But lets be honest, the whole gay thing is not about the "love between two human beings", it is about one man ******* another man in the ass. It is about SEX. You can love someone all you want but there is nothing homosexual about it unless you want to f*** them. And that is what the gay activists dont want to discuss because they know while it tugs at the heart strings to talk about love, the great majority of people are grossed out by gay sex, ESPECIALLY of their own gender.

We are biologically hardwired in our little lizard brains to reject that because we understand it is unhelpful to procreation and preservation of the tribe. It has been tested that women will be repelled by the smell of sweat by a blood family member but attracted to the sweat of a virile male that is not related.

Men and women have had deep, loving PLATONIC relationships with those of the same gender for eons. Only recently has a debauched Western society tried to sexualize those relationships. If you feel that deep love for the member of a same sex, think that the only people that can understand you are your own gender - today they tell you that you MUST be homosexual. In reality, you are just a normal gal or guy who has a close relationship with the same gender. Of course a guy understands a guy better than any girl ever will and who can understand women at all except another women? But the issue comes when the ACT of sex intrudes.

You love children? SURE but that doesn't mean I want to have sex with them. And before everyone goes wild and gets *ahem* all butt hurt trying to say I am "equating pedos and homos", I am not, nor do I believe that is true. Both however, I believe to be an improper sexualization of otherwise healthy relationships. Unlike homos, the pedos are predators, but use all the same arguments about "love". How can you deny love? Well, we don't actually. You can love those kids all you want - but the moment you want to touch them sexually, THAT is where society (RIGHTFULLY) draws the line - because it is perverse and sickening. In fact, I suspect if you are reading this and are revolted by even the discussion of sex with kids, great! - you are normal. But in the next few years, just as they are doing with Trans now, the pedos will make all the same arguments and try to hide it with "love" or "identity" when it simply comes down to a sex act.

While you may think the pedo argument is in the abstract, if a 10yo child can decide that their biological gender and sexuality is whatever they identify as, who is to tell them that they cannot identify as an older person, like over 18? If they do, who is to tell them that they cant have sexual acts with other people "identifying" as adults?

Point is, that the vast majority are revolted by deviance for very good biological reasons. That said, there is no room for hate of any person who engages in homosexual sex any more than for those who engage in hetro sex but that also doesnt mean we should suspend our rightful revulsion of the acts itself or embrace the attempt to normalize same sex relationships by discussing everything but sex. The same standard does not apply to Pedos, btw, since their acts are predations against the innocent and thus we should exterminate them with extreme prejudice as soon as their guilt can be firmly established.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Statements like allowing "public schools to groom K through 3 kids to produce a new generation of “recruits” for their lifestyle" indicate an epic lack of knowledge and he's intentionally equating the educators to pedophiles. It's a disgusting tactic and it indicates he's a bigot.

It similar to those tactics when the gay marriage debate was raging. The opponents compared gay couples to pedophiles and to people that engaged in beastiality.
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Or maybe. Just maybe. Adult strangers shouldn’t be discussing sex with small children?
 
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