The chances of beating Florida in the future.....

#26
#26
GatorRick said:
One thing not to forget, the Gators are not going to stop recruiting just because Tebow and Spikes leave. Our talent level is deep, and we will continue to get our fair share of top recruits in the future as well. I wouldn't count on any future easy victories as long as Urban is coaching us...I can see Florida being dominant for years and years to come!
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it's not Urban it's the fact UF is located in Florida and surrounded by talent. Same goes for USC or Texas. Any competent coach will get 8-10 wins a year at those schools
 
#27
#27
utvolpj said:
it's not Urban it's the fact UF is located in Florida and surrounded by talent. Same goes for USC or Texas. Any competent coach will get 8-10 wins a year at those schools
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I beg to differ...Before Spurrier, we didn't consistently get the talent or the wins...with Zook, we struggled...with Urban, we are dominating... these days, it absolutely is Urban Meyer and what he is doing at our program that will keep us dominant...just ask Miami and FSU
 
#28
#28
kevol80 said:
What would you guys say if you answered in this format?

2009- 10%
2010- 40%
2011- 50%
2012- ?
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Pretty close IMO.

However that is contingent on one thing. UT will beat UF in the relatively near future if and only if CLK and his staff are better coaches than Meyer and his staff.

UF is talented and are unlikely to lack talent for the foreseeable future. So far, Kiffin and Co have done a good job of recruiting EXCEPT for the most critical need to turn the balance of power- Offensive Linemen.

I personally believe that Tebow and their D losses will make for a tough year for them next year (relatively speaking). Unfortunately, I don't think UT will be ready to take advantage. USC maybe but more likely UGA.
 
#29
#29
GatorRick said:
I beg to differ...Before Spurrier, we didn't consistently get the talent or the wins...with Zook, we struggled...with Urban, we are dominating... these days, it absolutely is Urban Meyer and what he is doing at our program that will keep us dominant...just ask Miami and FSU
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Read my post, it was because you had terrible coaches. You think SOS scoured the country looking for the best talent? Heck no, he stopped off down the road to recruit on the way to him next tee time. Zook was still good enough for 8 wins but he left the talent level high. At certain schools the talent will always be there and the coaching doesn't need to be exceptional for winning to happen
 
#30
#30
GatorRick said:
I beg to differ...Before Spurrier, we didn't consistently get the talent or the wins...with Zook, we struggled...with Urban, we are dominating... these days, it absolutely is Urban Meyer and what he is doing at our program that will keep us dominant...just ask Miami and FSU
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Do you think some of this is to do with Miami and FSU being down the last few years?

I could be wrong about this but it seems the best thing for Tennessee and other Florida opponents would be to have a strong FSU and Miami pulling recruits their way.

I'm sure South Florida is only getting left overs at this point but I could see them being a major program in the future too.
 
#31
#31
Kiffin and his staff will recruit florida hard, where there are a ton of great athletes. UT will steal a ton from miami, florida state and florida, and before long, be back on top in the SEC east. Florida can't stay there forever.
 
#32
#32
99gator said:
no, we just realize that our chances of winning are extremely, extremely, extremely probable.....as in an almost certainty.
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I'm certain you didn't know this was a disaster, but your chance of winning is not probable. Maybe you don't get it, but the redundancy was unnecessary and made your comment wrong.
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#33
#33
GatorRick said:
I beg to differ...Before Spurrier, we didn't consistently get the talent or the wins...with Zook, we struggled...with Urban, we are dominating... these days, it absolutely is Urban Meyer and what he is doing at our program that will keep us dominant...just ask Miami and FSU
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Florida HS football has gotten better and the state's population has in creased since the 90's. UF was also the third team then with FSU and Miami prominent on the national stage.

Zook "struggled" to a 23-14 record and left Meyer with a NC talented team. That would have gotten the stadium named after him at Vandy or UK.

Zook was/is a terrible coach... but talent did carry him in spite of it.
 
#34
#34
sjt18 said:
Florida HS football has gotten better and the state's population has in creased since the 90's. UF was also the third team then with FSU and Miami prominent on the national stage.

Zook "struggled" to a 23-14 record and left Meyer with a NC talented team. That would have gotten the stadium named after him at Vandy or UK.

Zook was/is a terrible coach... but talent did carry him in spite of it.
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Very true. CUM entered a much, much better situation at Florida than CLK did here.
 
#35
#35
2009-5%
2010-20%
2011-25% and probably levels off about there for awhile. No way to know 10 years down the road.

Problem is, the SEC has let Florida become a giant by Bama, Auburn and Tennessee being down. That has allowed Florida to take over the state of Florida in recruiting. It will be difficult to take that away from them now that they have it and are the dominant football program in the country.
 
#37
#37
sobe said:
2009-5%
2010-20%
2011-25% and probably levels off about there for awhile. No way to know 10 years down the road.
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I would look over that depth chart again for the 2010 season. I think you have a better chance this year, even being in Gainesville, than you do next year.
 
#38
#38
rowsdower said:
I would look over that depth chart again for the 2010 season. I think you have a better chance this year, even being in Gainesville, than you do next year.
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I disagree. In any event, I'm not a "you" because I'm not a UT fan.
 
#39
#39
VolsRule said:
Kiffin and his staff will recruit florida hard, where there are a ton of great athletes. UT will steal a ton from miami, florida state and florida, and before long, be back on top in the SEC east. Florida can't stay there forever.
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Kiffin snuck around as a new coach, talked some smack to some young impressionable recruits, and scored a couple of high-profile commits from other schools. Whoop-de-doo. We would have loved to have those recruits, for sure, but they made their bed with Smokey, and now they're going to have to sleep in it.

One can have a garage full of exotic cars, but if they can't drive, it doesn't matter. Let's see how that "pro-set" goes for those poor kids. "We'll be using the pro-sets, you know, the ones that I failed with in the pros".

Everyone knows that Kiffin is capable of saying anything to get what he wants, as witnessed by his fresh-off-of-the-recruiting-trail gaffs in front of the cameras a few months ago. He was still in BS mode from hanging out with the kids apparently. It's one thing spouting bull to kids, it's another doing it in front of adults.

Everyone in the SEC now knows the game that Kiffin's crew plays, and they'll be more than happy to show him the ropes. He flew in under the radar, because the laughter still hadn't subsided from his Oakland debacle. It's not as if many SEC coaches haven't seen his type before, though. They've come and gone, a flash in the pan, flexing their muscles in front of the mirror during the summer, and then getting *****-slapped on Saturdays in the fall. One ambush doesn't win the war.

Florida will have it's ups and downs, but Kiffin and crew won't be the ones to knock the Gators off of their pedestal. He's done nothing to show that he can be a championship coach. Where was he successful without someone else holding his leash? The only trophy he has on display is his wife.

No, there's plenty of coaches in the SEC and elsewhere who can possibly take Florida down a notch, but your placeholder coach and his high-priced hired help still have to be able to coach in the NCAA to win, and none of them have proven anything yet.

Oh, but you can dream, grabbing at bits and pieces and making your monument to his future greatness out of them if you want. I know that I won't stop you. I do know that my words will be forgotten in a couple of years, when you scream for his head.
 
#40
#40
BradyvilleVol said:
You guys just don't realize you could lose Saturday do you? Overconfidence is a killer. BTW how many pounds of butter has Urban ordered to get your guys helmets on this season. I'm a commodities broker and need to get rich.
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Look, I didn't say that just to get someone upset. The facts are
1) UF returned their entire 2 deep defense
2) Crompton has really struggled and he's got to be a head-case after the UCLA game and all the talk since then
3) He's playing behind an offensive line that features an undersized walk-on center, so he's going to be pressured all day
4) He threw three ints in a row to UCLA. UF's defense is way better
5) Because of nos. 1-4 UT won't score much at all
6) UT has a very good defense and good coaching on that side of the ball, however, because of nos 1-5, that defense is going to be on the field A LOT.
7) No matter how good they are, because of no. 6 they are going to be getting real tired in the third quarter
8) UF will have a BIG second half due to no. 7
9) Lane Kiffin's mouth (no matter what his motivation) has given UF even more motivation in this game
10) Because of that motivation, UF will not just waltz out expecting to win. They will play with a chip on their shoulder that does not bode well for UT's chances in this game

UT has a much brighter future if Kiffin is any kind of coach...the jury is still out on that/no collegiate HBC experience and Oakland wasn't a ringing success. He will recruit kick a$$ classes but what will he do with them?
 
#41
#41
BigPapaVol said:
I'm certain you didn't know this was a disaster, but your chance of winning is not probable. Maybe you don't get it, but the redundancy was unnecessary and made your comment wrong.
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Unnecessary redundancies? Priceless...:eek:lol:
 
#42
#42
99gator said:
here's a fun stat for you. crompton has never completed 50% of his passes in a road game.
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You must be excluding the completions to the other team, the grass, and the finger tips of defensive linemen that he was aiming at and connected with in these newfangled statistics.
 
#43
#43
Mr. Two Bits said:
Unnecessary redundancies? Priceless...:eek:lol:
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Would any of you if idiots have understood had I not used a modifier.

Nevermind, you actually think (incorrectly) that you aren't an utter moron and loser for being here. Why ask you questions?
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