The Bruce Pearl Thread

Would you be for Bruce Pearl's return if Martin is fired after next year?

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gunner said:
20k a game is close to capacity, TBA seats 21k now after the reduction of seats and the addition of the luxury suites.
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For 3 of pearls year it sat 25k, they never came close. The suites were partially about money, but more than anything about downsizing, they realized it was never going to get filled.

If adding the suites knocked out 4k seats, add them to the other side and knock the capacity down to 17k. I suppose the concern with that though is selling those suites, I'm not sure how easily they've sold the current ones.

Jmo
 
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Sandvol said:
We was fired. We continued to pay him....a separation I think. But, I think he had ended his contract. Don't remember the exact details.
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I think I remember he had one more year at a little over a million and we paid it out over 4 years.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Pearls tenure averaged right at 19k. That's a great number, but once again, it's not the 24k Kentucky averages.

You're talking about the most exciting stretch in Tennessee basketball history, and they were still south of 20k.

As you eluded to already, tickets sold aren't always the actual number there either. I was at a lot of the Pearl coached games, and attendance may have been announced at 19k and it was actually 14k.

An arena around 14-15k would be the perfect size for Tennessee. It would be filled at a much higher percentage, and when it was filled the place would be rocking.
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I would be ok with a smaller arena especially withthecoaches we typically hire.....it gets embarrassing
 
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volbeast33 said:
I would be ok with a smaller arena especially withthecoaches we typically hire.....it gets embarrassing
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That's a good point as well. Not to beat a dead horse, but we aren't Kentucky applies here too.

You see Hart going out and waving around $4-$5 million for a basketball coach? I don't.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's a good point as well. Not to beat a dead horse, but we aren't Kentucky applies here too.

You see Hart going out and waving around $4-$5 million for a basketball coach? I don't.
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He could but that would be sacrilegious to pay more than the football coach.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's a good point as well. Not to beat a dead horse, but we aren't Kentucky applies here too.

You see Hart going out and waving around $4-$5 million for a basketball coach? I don't.
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No chance. Cuonzo is making what, $1.3 million? I doubt we pay $2 million.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
For 3 of pearls year it sat 25k, they never came close. The suites were partially about money, but more than anything about downsizing, they realized it was never going to get filled.

If adding the suites knocked out 4k seats, add them to the other side and knock the capacity down to 17k. I suppose the concern with that though is selling those suites, I'm not sure how easily they've sold the current ones.

Jmo
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Either way the only coach that has come close to filling the arena is BP. I think we can all agree on that.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's a good point as well. Not to beat a dead horse, but we aren't Kentucky applies here too.

You see Hart going out and waving around $4-$5 million for a basketball coach? I don't.
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With u it applies every where.....stadium size.--we are not kentucky......can't make the tourney----we are not kentucky.....struggle to sign top twenty classes-----we are not kentucky........

The list goes on and on
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
They factor in both, but the number of tickets sold were consistent during the Green era.
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Paid attendance is for the books, but in reality the fans in the stands are more important. They want you in there to eat, drink, and buy merchandise. Winning will accomplish all of that and make money for the AD.
 
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Freak said:
No chance. Cuonzo is making what, $1.3 million? I doubt we pay $2 million.
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We should be willing to pay the same as the football coach. That's what the market is for a basketball coach. We'd be paying Pearl close to that right now.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I would be ok with a smaller arena especially withthecoaches we typically hire.....it gets embarrassing
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My thoughts on that too. Why not just put the curtains back up and keep Martin. Schedule small time teams and a few Div II teams each year before we go into SEC play to make it look like we are a respectable team.
 
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Freak said:
No chance. Cuonzo is making what, $1.3 million? I doubt we pay $2 million.
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Pearl was gonna top out at 2.3 million, but didn't stay long enough, I think his final year he got $1.9 million.

So yea I would say you're probably right, I doubt we would start a coach out at anymore than $2 million, and ideally Hart is probably hoping around $1.5 million.
 
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gunner said:
Either way the only coach that has come close to filling the arena is BP. I think we can all agree on that.
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Absolutely.

And I'm giving him that credit, just saying that even he couldn't fill TBA up. It may not seem like it, but that's a compliment. If we couldn't fill it up during his tenure I doubt we ever could.
 
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volbeast33 said:
With u it applies every where.....stadium size.--we are not kentucky......can't make the tourney----we are not kentucky.....struggle to sign top twenty classes-----we are not kentucky........

The list goes on and on
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I don't know what to tell ya man, go be a Kentucky fan?
 
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volbeast33 said:
It's a fall back...F&&k kentucky....lets try to be te best tennessee we can be
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It starts at the top. You're gonna get what you pay for about 99% of the time. Do you see Hart going out and hiring one of the huge names, like Kentucky would do?

Throwing darts at a dartboard with pictures of mid major coaches, hoping you catch lightning in a bottle, isn't the best strategy to be "the Tennessee we can be".
 
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volbeast33 said:
Nah I will stick with tenn....just hope that my fellow vol fans quit bowing down to the wildcats.
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Not just the fans bro, it's the entire athletic department. As I've said, it starts at the top.

Kentucky bows down to Tennessee in football, we have been pretty much raised to bow down to Kentucky in basketball.

I hate it and it sucks, but until an AD at Tennessee decides they want our basketball program to be a serious contender that's how it's gonna be.

Sure we may get lucky and have some good years, but even when Pearl was here we were inferior to Kentucky.
 
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Freak said:
A smaller arena would be much more intimidating. I remember watching some great games in Stokely as a youngster.
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TBA was sized to be larger than Rupp. When first conceived, we were selling out every game in Stokely (12,700 or 12,926 later on). They decided to go big. I believe that 18K would be a good size, but I do like the current configuration at TBA. Wonder what the seating would be if they sky boxed the south side as well?
 
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